Market #79: SZ #107

Giulietta Sprint Zagato 10126*00107, engine 00120*01108.  This car is available right now from Morris and Welford.  Price is POR and the car is restored so I assume it costs between $250,000 and $350,000.  I am no expert so I will keep commentary to a minimum.

bigaThis is a neat car.  The yellow reminds me of a Ferrari 275 GTB4 a friend used to have .  I would lose a few of the stickers but other than that keep it how it is.

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Market #76: Older resto 65 Giulia Spider Veloce

Giulia Spider Veloce 390549, engine 00121*01983.  This car is available right now out of Cambria California on the Alfa BB for $39,000.  This a rare Veloce version of the official last year for the classic Pininfarina Giulietta shaped Spider.   The 00121 engine is common to the Giulia SS and in stock form makes anywhere from 120 – 129 hp depending on source of the information.

rightsideThis is the kind of car you want to buy if you can’t find a similar condition original car.  Car was restored to a  straight, clean and functional condition then driven.   Everything should fit together and work nicely since it takes a kind of fine-tuning that can only be done a little at a  time during  frequent use to get the most out of a mechanical restoration. 

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Market #74: restored Blue plate Spider

Update 1/12/10:  It’s funny to go back and look at these old Market reports.  Funny in this case because I go on about the wheel baase of this car but now know that 08607 would be a LWB car.  Oh well, you learn and have to admit mistakes…

Giulia Spider. For sale on bay area Craigslist. No real information given. $56,900 asking. Umm, yeah.

Ad text states it’s a 59 but I don’t think this style hood happened until late 61 or even 62 so I’m not sure what to say without the correct VIN to check. They say the vin is 000014908607 if I dare extrapolate I could guess 1495*08607, which is a 1960 Spider Normale, but that number series should be for an early style car with short wheel base, flat hood and early style gauges. Hood and gauges can be changed but a measure of the wheel base would tell the whole story.

00000000014908607-1Nice car for sure. I mean really nice car. Perfect. Of course a shiny red car at dusk always looks good. One would have to inspect…

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Market #68: Nice eyebrow Sprint in Mexico

Update:  20 bids, $13,300, reserve not met.  This doesn’t surprise me in light of the detailed pictures the seller added late in the auction, a few of which I added to the end of this post.  I predicted a higher end than this but it light of the new pictures and their evidence of a more than passing need for rust repair and new paint I think the ending price makes some sense, especially if more unpleasant surprises lurk.  I still think this car would see $18,000 or more if it was in California and sold with attention to detail the eBay seller out of Newport Beach usually uses.  Javier, I’m not sure what advise to give you.  It may be worth having the repairs done locally and trying again in the Spring, assuming total financial collapse doesn’t have us operating on the barter system. 

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*04953.  This car is available on eBay out of Temixco Mexico which looks to be close to Mexico City.  Fusi indicates it is a 1957 as claimed by the seller.

I had an email chat with a guy in Mexico about a 59 Sprint that he has and is thinking of selling to fund another Sprint.  His problem is importing old cars to Mexico is very difficult to impossible and his car has a US title and the car he is hoping to buy has a Mexican title.  He is hoping to sell his car in the US.  I told him that people I know would have reservations buying a car out of Mexico because of money exchange complications, shipping and in many cases unfair quality associations with South American countries who send cars to the states that are presentable but worn out.  I told him these perceptions mean the car has to be a very good deal or exceptionally rare to get serious interest from Americans.  I can’t say how Eurpoeans see it, buy I imagine not much differently.  I bring this up because I am hoping this car will prove me wrong.  What can be seen in the images leads me to believe this was a clean original car that was freshened up, albeit straying from original in the interior and drivetrain somewhat. 

b5b6_1Handsome car.  Windows look very clear.  Bright work is bright and straight, paint is shiny, door and hood gaps are average or better.  I know of guys who have sent cars to Mexico for paint and chrome because you can still get ‘the good stuff’ down there and it’s reasonably priced, you just have to have solid recommendations.  Note the big dollar sign on the quarter window.

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Market 60: Another Sprint Veloce Allegerita, this one with Targa Florio history

Giulietta Sprint Veloce ‘Allegerita’ 750E1493*04347, engine 1315*30526, Bertone 77468. This car is available right now for 68,000 Euro’s ($85,000 on November 19, 2008) from various sources in Europe but I found it at Steuel. The advertisement text is available below and includes pieces of the cars history the new owner will no doubt have fun verifying and elaborating on. I contacted the owner directly about the car and he provided me with the numbers and an offer of further information should I require it. I have no doubt any information required to help a potential buyer will be provided without hesitation.

In contrast to yesterdays SVA this car has been thoroughly refinished and prepared inside and out for racing without for cutting any corners and with no piece untouched. As can be seen below, the engine compartment underside and suspension are all in top condition. The Conrero connection and Targa Florio history should add quite a bit to the price of this car, but other than maybe a picture I doubt much evidence of those days still exists in the car.

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This car looks like a new car and I suppose one could say to all intents that it is a new car.  Wheels appear to be current reproductions.  Without being specific I’ll just say this car looks right- everything fits together well and has a unified level of detailing.

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Alfa Romeo Giulietta SS ‘Leight 00002’ Low-nose

Elmar, my European correspondent, sent me a link to Classic Motor Action in Belgium (who is currently offering a Fiat 8V that is spectacular!!!), telling me they had Low-nose SS number 2 in their archive of cars they had sold at auction, sure enough they do. d’Amico and Tabucchi say of this car “Machino presso il servizio esperienze principali”. I’m not sure of the nuance of the Italian language but I suspect they mean this car was put to work by the factory for testing, shows, journalists etc. It’s good to know it exists as it is truly the second SS made behind 00012 and before 00006.

alfa-romeo-guilietta-ss-leight-1-00002Definitely a low nose. I wonder how old this picture is? Notice the similarities to 00001 below. I assume the title ‘leight’ means it is aluminum.

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Market #56: British ‘Style et luxe’ Giulia SS

Giulia SS AR10121*380784, Engine 00121*00722. This car is available here now for 44,321 Euro’s, which at todays exchange rate is $57,387 (would have been $70,000 a few weeks ago!). Elmar sent me the link to this fine specimen which is described thus:

“1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia 1600 Sprint Speciale with coachwork by Bertone. 1965. Rare RHD. Rosso with black hide. In the current ownership since 1979, this is a well known car having multiple concours awards to its credit as well as having been the subject of a number of magazine articles. The car also featured in last year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed Cartier ‘Style et Luxe’ display. Very rarely found in this condition. Please telephone or e-mail for fuller details.”

Nice Nice Nice, especially after the Project featured a few posts ago. I’m not even going to try and critique this.

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Market #53: Late 1600 Giulietta Sprint

Update 1/5/09:  This car is still available and the seller is looking to get about $25,000 for it. 

Giulia Sprint 1600 AR357309. This car is available right now on eBay and bidding is currently $18,000 Fusi says this is a 1963 Giulia Sprint 1600, no engine number is stated but it was originally a Tipo 00112 probably about 08000. Bertone number is probably about 6530000.

I’ve seen this car before on the AlfaBB and the seller seems to have a handle on what these cars are about so I am confident this is a car that is as good as it looks.

These late Sprints are neat because they have the classic Bertone Giulietta Sprint shape combined with the updated components being phased in with the Giulia Sprint Speciale, Giulia Sprint Veloce (step-nose GTV) and Giulia TI.

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Market #50: Al Leake’s 57 Monoposto Spider race car

Update 2/11/09: This car just showed up on Anamera advertising that it will be auctioned by RM.  They are looking for $125,000.

95a9ec9425How much mark up does a detailing add?  Someone is going to find out!

213965f39dThis is one sweet ride.  Knowing me, if it were mine I’d commute in it.

Ex-Al Leake 1957 Giulietta Spider ‘Monoposto’ 1495*02646, Engine 00106*00512. This is a pretty serious purpose-built race car and it is available right now from Fantasy Junction. Click on the link if for no other reason than to look at the 50 or so pictures provided. No price is stated but Sophia, his most often raced Giulietta Spider made about $75,000 on eBay last winter so you can bet that this car will be at least that much.

Al Leake along with some other guys including H.B. Luginbuhl had an SCCA race team that started in the late 60’s/early 70’s called Rubber Chicken racing. Al continued to race and build Alfa’s for many years until he lost a battle with cancer earlier this year. A little of his history and cars can be read here on the Alfa BB. I saw Al race a few times at Sears Point and Laguna Seca and I can personally attest that he was very very fast and that this car is capable of winning against seemingly faster and more nimble cars if well driven.

It’s refreshing to see a modern era vintage race car that is both fiercely competitive and tastefully presented. I like the contrasting white wheels and cut down windscreen. A lot of Giulietta Spider race cars lose the under door trims, eyebrow trims and even grill heart. If you are fast this eight pounds of jewelry isn’t going to keep you from winning.

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Market #41: Giulietta SS 00207 cleaned up.

Another update: This car has reportedly sold!  I guess that means you have to buy mine…

Update: I found a couple of pictures from the previous sale if anyone is seriously interested in this car and wants to see them email me at sprints@giuliettas.com. Also this car is missing the hood spear but they are available.

Giulietta SS 10120*00207, Engine 00536*08350, Bertone *87*209*. Fantasy Junction has this car listed for $48,500. This car was sold by them last year for about $28,000 as a project. Interestingly the link on their ‘Cars we sold’ page is gone. I suppose if I was selling this car a second time after it under went a cosmetic face lift I’d rather the world didn’t know.

The engine in the car is a 1600cc from a 1966 Giulia Sprint GT Veloce or a Duetto and contemporary literature lists the power output at either 125 or 122 depending on the brochure, either way a few shy of the 129hp claimed for a 10121 Giulia SS. The good: Probably a fast smooth 10120 Giulietta SS, not as high strung as one with the original 100 hp 1300cc engine but the bad: it’s not original and the price doesn’t adequately reflect this in my opinion, though I suppose it could be argued that it’s close. I could of course go on at length with opinions but form your own from this: The correct 00120 Engine with all the the correct parts in running condition starts at $15,000 due to its commonality with the expensive SZ, a 1966 Veloce engine like the one in this car is maybe $5-6000.

Car looks a lot better than it did when I looked at it last year. All of the loose ends seem to have been tied up. I like the addition of fog lights. Headlights are cheapo Wagners or something. I’d like to see some period Carello’s or Marchal’s but if you’re sprucing a car up to make money it probably doesn’t make sense to spend money unnecessarily, especially when so few would notice.

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