Category: Giulietta & Giulia Market

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Market 215: Tidy driver Early Spider 750D 01323

Update 5/7/10:  27 bidders resulted in a high of $14,600 and the car went deservedly unsold.  Too many Giulietta Spiders on the market or the imminent crash of the Euro?  I’d buy this tomorrow if I had $20K, drive and improve it the next two months and put it through RM or some such at the Monterey weekend this August.

Giulietta Spider 750D 1495*01323, 1315*41282.  This car is on eBay right now out of Chico California, a college town a little north of Sacramento.  There seems to be a higher than usual number of early Spiders moving around the market right now… must be all the ones that have been waiting for winter to pass.

I like the fogs, nice touch that they made use of the ‘tusk’ mounting holes.  Not much to say other than tidy and attractive!

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Market 136: Sprint Veloce Lightweight 750E 04447

Update 5/7/10: 24 bidders resulted in $70,100.  This is pretty low, but probably not a huge reflection on the value of this car.  I think it’s more like $100K.  Chances are it’s not goingf to be let go for that though.

Update 4/29/10: This car has been listed on eBay after hanging out in their showroom for most of a year.  Still fabulous, still too much money for me.  Sigh.

7/31/2009: Giulietta Sprint Veloce Lightweight 1493*04447, 1315*30528. This car is available right now at my local corner market for the rare, exotic and covetable: Fantasy Junction. Slide your debit card through the reader, enter your PIN and accept the $154,500 amount. Transaction complete. “Thank you, come again.”

Seller claims this is one of only 100 Sprint Veloce lightweights made but there is an often published list of the first 100 Sprint Veloce Lightweights, the date they were produced (July of 1956 is the last car on that list), who bought them, where they were shipped, and this car is not on that list, in fact, if you add that list of 100 to the other known lightweights you get close to 130. This car is body number 77498, so I would deduce it’s the 498th Sprint Veloce lightweight made, though they were not necessarily made in numerical order. Some argue that not all of those Sprint Veloce’s were lightweights, but I would rebut: “Why make special lightweight bodies then dress them in non-lightweight clothes?” Greig Smith writes very convincingly and with sound logic on this topic and deduces that there were “about 600 lightweights made“. See his comments and reasoning at the link.

30658Am I blue? I keep thinking that if I work hard making my Alfa fleet the best it can be, one day I will be able to have a blow out sale and buy 1 spectacular Alfa. It would be either a Giulietta Sprint Veloce Lightweight or a Giulietta Sprint Veloce Zagato Coda Tronca. It will be expensive and I will miss driving with reckless abandon in my scruffy Sprint.

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Market #29: Nice Red Giulia Sprint Speciale in Los Angeles

Update 4/26/10:  This car is back on eBay with the same pictures and a zero feedback seller.  Scam?  Chances are… 

Update 7/2/08. Auction has been pulled off eBay as of about 1pm. I guess I was right to express my doubts about the validity of this auction. Buyers beware, this is the third time I have personally seen pictures from this group used to create a fake eBay auction. Has anyone ever fallen for one of these scams?

Giulia Sprint Speciale 10121*380999. This car is available right now on eBay out of Los Angeles with a starting bid of $45,200. This particular car, with these pictures has been on eBay twice in the last year, once in Hayward California and once in Savannah Georgia. On both of those occasions the auction was pulled within a day of being posted. Is this the real seller offering this car for sale right now? I don’t know, but more pictures and information is provided in this auction than either of the other two and both the others had buy it now prices that were way under market for this car, I think less than $20,000. There is no reserve and the starting bid is slightly under market for this car if everything checks out. Maybe this is a real no-scam auction.

No engine number is given so I would first ask about the number and request a picture of the number on the engine to make sure the stamping looks unaltered. In this price range, you have to verify everything. I would guess the engine number would turn out to be in the range 00121*00850 – 00121*01150.

Is it just me or is the bumper corner on the drivers side drooping a little? The supports and bracketry in this area are not very robust and as such easily damaged but also easily realigned. Other than that it looks great!

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Market 212: 1 and 1/2 Spider Veloce’s

Update 4/26/10:  29 bids and $12,200 resulted in a sale.  Fair all the way around.

Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390255, 00121*01757 & 10118*390245.  These cars are on eBay right now as a package deal out of Ithaca New York from a seller who sounds very knowledgable and realistic about the condition of the cars.  A little over 1000 of these late run 101 Spider Veloce’s were made, with engines in common with 1600 SS’s.  Fusi says the engines should be tipo 00118 but no such engine exists.  Values are strong for good ones, so a project is worth doing.

The overall picture isn’t too bad, but everything you see will require work.  At least the nose dimple is in pretty good shape.

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Market 211: Spider 750D in Florida

Update 4/26/10: $26,450 after 30 bids is a pretty good result for this car, but considering the originality I’d call it well bought. 

 Giulietta Spider 750D 1495*06116, 1315*44942. This car is on eBay right now out of Florida.   Bidding after a few hours has already reached $18,900 -not bad for an original looking car.  There are a lot of pictures on the Flickr set (the VIN is the link).

Looks like a good honest well cared for specimen.  Paint is tough to judge -it being white and all, but from everyone-elses perspective (you on the road) it looks good.

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Market 207: Sprint Veloce Lightweight project in LA

Update 4/16/10: More pictures have surfaced (link is to a large Flickr set).  This car needs a lot to bring it back and the fact that it hasn’t been snapped up by anyone who has gone and seen it in person tells me it’s very needy.  Make a reasonable offer and wait?

 The fire damage to the aluminum skin of the passenger door.  Ouch.  Rocker needs a little too…

Lots to do to correct the steel door frame and then refit the skin.

A view that doesn’t look too bad.

Giulietta Sprint Veloce. In the for sale section at the website for the UK based Giulietta Register is a rare thing indeed -a project Sprint Veloce Lightweight!  Car was apparently in some sort of fire and will require some more difficult than usual fabrication.  If you’ve been looking for one as a project this may be it.

Yes it looks scary, but I bet all the easy ones have been fixed already.  Doors, hood, trunk, window frames, headlight rings, and lots of other little bits are aluminum.   Continue reading “Market 207: Sprint Veloce Lightweight project in LA”

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Market 210: Amazing transformation 1960 Sprint

Update 4/22/10: $23,100 was the result with 21 bidders making a play.  Lets hope this car has finally found a home! 

Giulietta Sprint 10105 1493*22515.  This car is on eBay right now out of Philadelphia PA.  Why the ‘amazing transformation’ title?  We’ve seen this car before.  This car has the distinction of being the first car in the line up (in other words the cheapest) of both the 2008 and 2009 Sprint market summaries.  Check out Market 40 and Market 75.  I have often said, half in jest, that you could buy a somewhat complete Sprint shell and a $700 1970’s Spider runner, throw on a decent coat of paint, buy about $1500 worth of little stuff from Centerline or on eBay and create a pretty cool runner.  That looks like exactly what happened here.  Bravo!

Paint looks good, front end trim is good and all in all it looks attractive and right.  I would have no problem driving this Sprint.  Picasso museum?

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Market 186: rusty Spider project 10103 170124

Update 4/8/10: Failing the eBay route this car has been listed on Craigslist for $3000.  There has been some discussion on the 750-101 group all to the effect that it’s too much money.  The seller got very little for the drivetrain parts they sold before selling the car, so it’s starting to look like they should have kept it all together.  Some rube will probably buy it and then start the cycle anew on eBay , but at $5000.  Sigh.

Update 3/29/10: This car is back on eBay with lots more and better pictures, bidding has reached $2995 with one bid and it looks as though there is no reserve.  Maybe this fellow has found a new home.

Update 2/16/10: No bids, no buyer.  Patience friend Spider -you’ll have your day.

Giulietta Spider 10103 170124. This car is on eBay right now out of Oregon.  Seller has been auctioning off a lot of the little parts over the last couple of weeks and now the rest of the car has to go.  I just noticed this car was listed 7 minutes after the Sprint in market 185.  Odd how the world works.  Opening bid is $3995.  No takers as yet.

Looks like the typical scrappy parts car layed up 20 years ago and now maybe worth enough to be promoted from parts car to project.  We’ll see.  Lots of good parts to be seen, but all need some love to be viable.

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Market 204: Giulietta Spider to enjoy or rerestore

Update 4/26/10: 26 Bids with a high of $14,801 was enough to see this car repatriated to Italy where it will probably see a little correction.  About right for buyer and seller.

Update 4/7/10: This car is now listed on eBay with yet more good pictures (which are now permanently here on Flickr).  It has problems but again, looks like a solid enough driver that if moved to a dry climate might never need further repair.  I’d certainly drive it as-is.

Update 3/26/10:  A bunch of pictures were posted on the AlfaBB and the seller is looking to make a deal.  The condition is as described.  Make an offer!

“1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider AR1495-10301. The engine is a later production Giulia unit 00112-14908 (Compression 178, 174, 180, 171). The transmission is a four speed (second gear is fine). The car underwent an amateur restoration in the mid 1990’s. The trunk floor was replaced and the rear driver’s floor patched. The repairs are serviceable, but not of a high quality. The car has a 10 foot paint job. The outer rockers are starting to rust at the wheel wells. There are a handful of very small perforations in the floors. All trim is present with the exception of the license plate lights and the trunk lock, which is inoperative.. The chrome work is fair with some dents in both bumpers. There is no top, but the complete top frame is with the car. This spider presents itself well and is a good driver with 4 new Vredestein 155/15 tires. The brakes have been rebuilt with all new seals and the radiator and Solex carb have been rebuilt. The car can be enjoyed as is or it would be an excellent candidate for a full restoration. Please call for a more complete description. I have many high resolution photos of the car including the floors and trunk. 607-745-6482 cell. The car is located in Cortland, NY, 30 miles south of Syracuse. Price $15,000. I would consider an interesting trade, preferably an Alfa or Lancia.”

Giulietta Spider 10103*10301, 00112*14908 (not original). This Spider is listed on Hemmings right now for $15,000.  Price is decent if you don’t care about trying to fix the flaws described in the ad text such as poor rust repairs to trunk and bubbles forming in the rockers.  If it runs and drives, I say use it and fix it little by little along the way.

Seller describes it as a 10 footer paint job and I have to agree -looks really good here.  Complete, presentable and ‘right’ looking.

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Market 209: Nice red Giulietta Spider

Update 4/26/10: 32 bids were placed and $27,201 was the highest.  Middle of the road for one of these in this condition.  I think inclusion of the original engine would have helped a little but this is about what they are going for…

Giulietta Spider 750D 1495*07104.  This car is listed on eBay out of Troy Michigan, no doubt hoping to ride the coat tails of Market 206’s $45,400 result for a nice red Giulietta Spider normale.  This car looks good in the pictures but they are of somewhat low resolution and without the sellers name recognition of the 206 Spider, it is unlikely to be bid up quite as high.  I am pleased to finally be able to incorporate something in the spirit of my ‘Pushing Product’ series here.

This is called ‘selling the dream’.  The red convertible, the hot chick, and a seemingly warm summer day.  Not sure what the train signifies, but I’m sure I’ll think of something.  Car sits just right and the panel gaps look good.  Of course the first question in the Q&A section of the auction was regarding the possible inclusion of the girl -maybe in another arguably less civilized country…

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