Market #64: Very Early SS project

Update 2/25/09: Seller sent me a few pictures of this car out of the little garage where it’s been living the last 20 years.

al-ss-back-threeCar looks even better out of the cramped garage.

al-ss-back-twoI wish my SS looked this good from behind.

Update 2/20/09: I went and saw (translated that means I drove from Oakland to San Diego and back in 21 hours) this car on Wednesday to either get the idea of buying it out of my head or get the ball rolling on the buy, combine, sell process. It sounds like a big drive just to look at a car, but I also picked up an extra set of door glasses, seats and some small misc from the other SS the seller got with this car, which was stripped, cut up and thrown away due to being ‘very very rusty’. I am listing some of the other parts for the seller on my for sale page.

2621726-600-0Looks pretty good as far as projects goes. Headlight appears to be pushed into the body a bit and the marker light has been molested at some point. Hood fit doesn’t look too bad.

Okay, so how is this car you ask? I think it’s pretty good. If you wanted to just drop a running engine in it, do the brakes, lube the suspension and get the electrical parts working you’d have a roadworthy rough SS. Kinda cool. The dash, headliner and all is pretty good, the door panels are out of the car but could be sympathetically installed to achieve the RSS ‘Ratty Sprint Speciale’ look.

The engine you can see propped in it is a blank Veloce block, the crank is out and one of the main caps is missing. The seller says he has more boxes of SS stuff ‘somewhere’ but I would either plan on an align bore or write the block off going into the deal if I didn’t see it. The intake manifold, 40DCOE2’s and plenum are correct for 1300 101 Veloce and I found the fuel pump blank off plate, Marelli distributor, engine front over with aluminum fan etc, so there is a lot of value in what is present. Personally I’d throw a known good 1600 or 1750 in it and keep these bits on the shelf for the ‘restoration’ while I drive it around.

Send me an email at sprints@giuliettas.com if you want to hear more about this car. The seller is ready to deal but this is no fire sale.

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101 1300 rebuild part #11: Marelli Veloce distributor set up

You may remember I earlier wrote about distributors and what I should do for one for this engine rebuild. I had the Lucas unit that was originally in this car in a box so I assumed I would just get it re-bushed, put new points, condenser etc in it and use it. I dropped it off a Jaan’s shop and a few days later he called me to tell me the shaft and drive section was all home-made and that it would not be cost effective to fix it, and that at its best it still wouldn’t be as good as a Bosch or Marelli unit. The next day I started pulling the 1600 apart that is going in the SS and I realized the Marelli distributor installed on it would be perfect for the 1300 rebuild, especially if I ever went with a Veloce spec conversion as it is a 750/101 spec unit.

dirty-marelliHere it is, fresh off the 00121 engine I am going to start rebuilding soon for the SS. It doesn’t look like much but the shaft spins nicely without having any side to side play. I am told these are pretty hard to find and expensive, so I will be careful.

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101 1300 rebuild part #10: hooking it up

I spent rainy Saturday and Sunday afternoons at the shop this weekend working on all the little loose ends that need to be tied in order to start the engine for the first time.  I started out with painting and installing the starter.  Once I had the starter bolted up and looking good I found the gasket and all the fasteners I set aside for the intake manifold and went to mount it.  The height of the engine didn’t allow the manifold to clear the rail in the engine bay so I had to jack the engine up about an inch on the passenger side and this allowed it to slip by.  Once the manifold was on I found the new thermostat and gasket along with the used thermostat housing I bought from Glenn a few weeks back.  This was all straight forward to install.

img_7638As usual, the finished picture first.  The red in the engine compartment came out good.  Not great, just good.  I think the level of finish in the engine compartment will match the rest of the car if I leave the valve cover alone.

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Market #88: Second rustiest Spider ever

Giulietta Spider 101.03 170618, Engine tipo 00102. I’ve been on a Spider kick this week, must be the leak in the roof over my side of the bed that developed in all this rain (I know, pansy-ass California rain). Okay, so in my pursuit of Spiders this week I came across this specimen on Italian eBay for 8000 Euro’s. Imagine what you could do with this car, I mean, I bet that engine is not far from running, but wow, where did they park this thing? “Hey baby, is your tetanus shot up to date? Want a ride?”

d86f_1No serious alarm bells yet, except maybe the seeming absence of rockers. I can’t really tell if it’s red over gray or gray over red but important thing is they are both over rust.

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Market 87: SVZ 02028/06936

Giulietta Sprint Veloce Zagato 1493E*06936.  This car is listed on Anamera right now out of the Netherlands.  There is very little information given on this car but if you read through ‘The Complete SVZ File’ thread on the Alfa BB you will find some very interesting reading about this car.

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This is a gorgeous little car.  Zagato hand crafted these cars on an individual basis from Sprint race car wrecks.  This car was restored by Zagato in the mid 1980’s. 

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Market #86: Crashed nice Spider

Giulia Spider 1600 101.23 AR373862.  This car was on eBay ended at $15,776 with 20 bidders on 12/20/08.  I imagine (or at least hope) it’s under the knife right now.  I think this was a decent deal considering everyting is sorted except the accident damage.  Values seen to have come down a little since then so I expect this would make maybe $13,000 now.

6db9_3It’s like two-face from what was it Batman?  Looks like it was a nice car.

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Market #85: Expensive late 101 1600 Spider

Update 2/11/09: Seller says it’s all one color but that engine compartment sure looks white to me.

Giulia Spider 1600 101.23 AR375698, engine 00112*08251. This car is available right now on eBay out of Southern California and not much different than the subject of Market #84 other than a claimed (with marginal photo evidence) absence of rust, fresher paint and a sobering $33,500 asking price.

Celeste spider frontSo far so good. Trim is excellent and I like the color of the car. Blacked out grill openings are pretty cool. Note wet driveway and remember cars look better when wet.

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Market #84: Running Resto 64 Spider project

Giulia Spider 101.23 AR379860. This car is available right now on eBay, buy it now for $16,500, from a classic car dealer in southern California who offers your typical mix of not-very-exciting (at least to me) late British and German roadsters. No engine number is stated but I am going to guess that if it’s original its about 00112*18000.

3791608_3This is how you used to find them all the time. A little bump in the nose, trim and bumpers in B to B+ condition with good enough fit for a driver, paint with some bald patches and, well ,you get the picture.

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Market #83: Numbers matching 750 Spider project

Giulietta Spider 750D 1495*02549, engine 1315*42308. This Spider project is available now on eBay. From the description I am not sure exactly what you get besides the body, block and license plate w/title. Seller contacted the Alfa archive and received this response:

“According to our documentation files, the chassis number AR 1495.02549 and the engine number AR 1315.42308 originally correspond to an Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider, Manufactured on the 9th of August 1957 and sold on the 18th September 1957 to Hoffman Motor Car Co. New York, USA. The body colour is red.”

100_0448-vi1It’s a Spider, that’s for sure. Is that bondo around the nose? Sweet.

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Market #82: Another late Giulia Spider Veloce

Giulia Spider Veloce 101.18 AR390652, Engine AR00121.02393.  This car is available right now from Fantasy Junction, asking price is $31,500.  They describe it thus:

“Outstanding ‘driver’ standard restoration. 2,500 miles since completion. A true Veloce by serial number. $39,500 spent on engine (rebuilt), transmission (rebuilt), suspension and brakes. Repainted in the original color. Drives well, as would be expected of a rebuilt car. Evidence of some rust repairs to the underside, but generally a straight, solid car. Great value.”

390692 aboveLooks very good.  It’s hard to get all the panels and trim pieces to align and be symmetrical after a repaint.  Color is a little boring in my opinion, but I’m sure ‘classy’ in someone elses, at least it’s original.

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