Market #39: rough 60 Spider project non-roller
Update 7/14/09: 7 bidders had it out and the new result was $2025. Not bad really.
Update 7/1/09:  “This car is being relisted due to difficulties in concluding the sale to an International buyer. U.S. Bidders only!!!b”
Update 6/11/09: Wow, 15 bidders fought it out and the winner spent $2236 buying this car, 11x more than the last result. Bravo, so now buy my car already, it’s twice as good as this and closer to home.
Update 6/4/09: This car has been listed on eBay again. Get in there. What are you waiting for? Bidding starts at $200. Such a deal. I’d drop half that to have the hood hinges.
Update 8/19/08. Reserve not met. Bidding reached $202.50 and would have been very well bought at that price. Car is relisted with $50 opening bid and $1500 buy it now. At least we now have an idea what the seller thinks it’s worth. Due to the complexity of moving this thing I am not sure even $1000 makes sense to anyone but a local to the car.
Giulietta Spider 10104 1495*11267. Listed here on eBay as a 1958 Spider parts car or body for restoration. Numbers indicate the car is a late 1960 interim car. As of writing this the auction has no bids and starts at $50.
It’s nice to see someone list a car like this without the usual hyperbole about how close it is to being a runner etc. The real shame here is this doesn’t look like it was such a bad car too long ago. I am going to guess someone pulled the wheels off to get some tires mounted and do the brakes, lost interest for a few years , lost the wheels and brake parts then sold it for parts. Eventually it ended up belly on the ground in Orrick MO (just outside of Kansas City), where we finally caught up with it.
Surprisingly straight and solid on the top side at least. I paid $1500 for a similar car earlier this year but it was on wheels. Trim parts seen here are all very valuable.
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Market 125: Giulia Spider project 10123*379887.
Update 6/28: 29 bidders duked it out and the high bidder got this car for $6433. Not bad, not bad at all. Seller is probably back in the green on the sale and high bidder got if nothing else a fabulous parts car or tough but do-able project.
Giulia Spider 10123*379887 is available on eBay now out of Lafayette California, just over the hill from me. It wears Texas plates and has some significant but not terminal underside rust so don’t let the California auction mislead you. It is however an unmolested example (unmolested is another way of saying ignored), ready for restoration so the new owner will be the first one to take anything apart and begin the process.
Appears to have been molested a little to the left of the grill. Center badge is missing (cheap repro is available) and so is the grill eyebrow above the license plate. All in all pretty good up here.
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Market 123: Barn Find late Spider Veloce
Update 6/17/09: “The seller ended this listing early to sell to the high bidder(s) at current bid price.” 50 bids, $25,300 and the seller ended early to sell to the current high bidder. I guess eBay has figured out that there was no way they could keep this from happening so they have embraced the off auction sale. $25k for this car is about right in my opinion.
Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390214, engine 00121*01727. This car is available out of Southern California on eBay and includes the rare Pininfarina factory steel hardtop. Auction description is lengthy and included at the end. Seller states the car is a 1965 and no doubt that is what the title says, but d&T and Fusi both indicate it was manufactured in 1964.
This is how you find them and when you are very lucky you are the first one to find them and get a very good deal. I don’t think I would do much to this car at this point, just make it safe and clean. By the shape of the ovals in the wheels these are Borrani’s. There late Veloce’s seem to always have these wheels.
Market 116: 58 Spider Veloce project shell
Update 6/16/09: The auction ended at $4000 with 11 bidders. I think it has been established that this is a $4000 car!
Update 6/10/09: This car is back on eBay from the same seller as the subject of Market 95, and the same seller who listed it in May. It still looks like a good start for a Spider Veloce restoration. I wonder how much money is spent moving cars from small time dealer to small time dealer? I imagine when this car finally finds a home intesested in it as a project rather than a money maker, there will have been a $1500 ‘transport’ tax applied.
Update 5/14/09: 23 bids resulted in a sale price of $4010. Probably about right if the floors and sills are as rotten as stated.
Update: Well, more of a please note, the absence of a Veloce engine complete with about $4000 worth of intake components etc is is a high hurdle to overcome where this car is concerned and as Veloces get more expensive, so will these components.
Giulietta Spider Veloce 1495*05164. This car is available now on eBay out of Stanton California, one of the little town between Long Beach and Orange in Southern California. It looks decent in the pictures but the description says it’s rusty in the sills but no pictures are presented of the rust so assume the worst.
Looks like a pretty good nose compared to the usual mess these cars end up in. Bumpers aren’t bad as cores and it’s even a good color under all the layers.
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Sprint 750B ‘Easy Restoration’?
While on my usual morning stroll through the information super highway (I only ever go a few exits myself) I came across a reference to Bart Holland in the Netherlands on the Alfa BB. The reference mentioned ‘a lot of pictures of a Sprint 750B restoration’. I would soon learn this is an understatement. From their home page you can link to the restoration of this car.
The pictures below are of the car before restoration. I am going to assume that this is a case of the car looking better in pictures than it is, and that the owner wanted a perfect Sprint, or maybe this car was restored with such careful documentation to demonstrate their skills. Either way it is amazing. Go to the website only if you have some time to kill. Their skill at dealing with imperfect parts and making them better than new in a lot of cases is evident and well documented.Â
This picture is a copyright Bart holland. I don’t think they’ll mind my using it since I’m giving them free advertising. Looks like the ususal ‘restored’ Sprint found on eBay. Wait until you see what this car goes through!
Market #37: “Alpha Romeo Giulietta Sprint Voloce”
Update: 6/3/09. 20 bids, $11,311 the high bid with reserve not met. I am willing to bet this is less than the current owner paid for the car, pity since it sounds like it is in perfectly usable shape. If it were me I’d go down to the local auto paint shop, get rid of the yellow and buy some grills for it. I doubt there is one bidder who is not subtracting at least $1500 from their max based on doing these things. Other than that maybe add all the badges and get some Sprint seats.
Update: 5/28/09. 21533 is back on eBay after having found an owner to attend to its needs making it roadworthy, as presentable as possible, and who could write an auction description that actually tells something about the car.
I’m still at odds with the blacked out grills and yellow mask, but over-all this is an attractive car. Current owner has done a good job preparing it for a profit making resale.
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TI tidy up 8: the Bosch distributor
Some days it’s all I can do to find 20 minutes to tackle some small job on whatever project I’m working on, much less take the time to write about it. Yesterday afternoon I degreased, inspected and noted any parts needing replacement on the mechanical advance Bosch distributor that the TI is going to use. I get asked a lot how I manage to get these projects done seemingly fairly quickly and I always say it’s not the few long days that gets it done but the countless 20 minute sessions where I tackle one small job.
A quick test fit with the clamp in place of the newly spiffed up distributor. Red Cavis wires are like new. I’ll check the resistance through each wire to see if their all the same.
Ti tidy 7: moving right along
The Giulia TI is coming along nicely. The greasy lump seen below showed up on Thursday afternoon. I had to give up the mid-seventies 1300 that came with the car but it was not the original engine so I wont lose sleep over the loss. All I have to do is remove the Spica intake parts, degrease it, do the head gasket and install a few parts appropriate to its new home and I’ll be on my way.
This fine unit started life in a 1973 Spider. One thing led to another and 36 years later it founds its way to me. Note the mechanical advance aluminum body distributor. Red wires are original Cavis made OEM items.
TI Tidy-up part 5: The plan.
Now that I have successfully completed the Sprint engine rebuild I think I will try again to plan a project. I will lay out here the specification, schedule and budget to reach my desired outcome for the TI tidy-up. At the end you will find my nice to have’s and dream to have’s.
What do I want from the TI? The same thing functionally as the Berlina provided, a safe, fun, reliable daily driver. This time though, I want it to be presentable and plan on taking it on some weekend rallys and tours. Of course I want all this as inexpensively as possible and as soon as possible.
This picture borrowed from the AlfaBB shows the original color of my TI and the original 15″ wheels I hope to find a set of. Anyone?