Market 152: Bargain Interim Sprint project

Update 12/28/10: You can follow Bob’s restoration on the Alfa BB. Here are a few pictures I lifted.

It takes a lot of persistence (or check writing capabilities) to get it to this state.

I like the rotisserie -makes the stripping of the body a lot easier.

Update 2/10/10: 15 bibbers fought it out and a winner emerged paying $9000 for this car.  Reserve was met and sale is hopefully final.  Kind of sad when a car has to change hands so many times to find a loving home- of course it could be on the boat to Belgium for another mark up.  So it goes.

Update 12/23/09: Will a $9850 high bid buy it?  Nope.  Where do we go from here?

Update 12/14/09: This car is back on eBay. There are extensive pictures and it does look like a pretty fair project, as I said earlier, it’s a shame an enthusiast looking for a Sprint didn’t snap this up when it was first listed out of Santa Barbara for $7500. The resale tax means this car has to make about $9000 to just break even for the current owner who has towing, clean up and eBay listing fees to recoup.

Update 10/20/09: 21 bids, $8200, reserve not met? I expect we will be seeing more from this car. I thought $7500 was a reasonable price and an enthusiast could have gotten it going and cleaned it up without ending up too underwater in it. If I were selling this I would put a few hours into it and make it run before relisting it. Maybe they would trade for my 69 GTV…

Update 10/12/09: Now on eBay. Someone smelled a chance to make a few thousand dollars. Still a good deal if it’s as good as it looks.

Update: Oops, I guess I should have seen if this was still available. Apparently it has been sold and has packed its bags in anticipation of a new life.

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*08631, 1315*07393. This car is has been available for a while as the least valuable in a package deal including two first series small headlight, column shift Sprints. The Ventura CA based seller has broken up the family and this car is now listed casually around the internet, check it out at the Alfa BB where the asking price is $7500 These early 750/101 transition cars have a lot of character and are great drivers when set up well.

2980995565_f068d76445_oLooks like a runner/driver just parked in the shade, waiting to do service as a errand runner. I guess the front ride height does suggest the lack of an engine. There is a small dent in the drivers side grill and the paint is definitely dead, but I’d happily drive this as is. I wouldn’t even put hubcaps on it.

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Market 185: Sprint 07448 project -most pictures ever!

Update 2/16/10: 27 bidders pushed the price to $1575.  Reasonable considering the lack of rust and engine/suspension pieces intact.  I bet it ends up a parts car this time around.  Anyone here buy it?

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*07448. This project is on eBay out of El Paso Texas right now.  The price as I write this is $203 and by the looks of things it might stay sub-$1000.  This car was probably a Willys-Overland assembled car as it is said to have spent its whole life in Mexico.  What you see is what you get.  And at close to 150 pictures, there is lots to see!

This is how they look.  Wrinkled, uneven and, well, just abused.  Shouldn’t be too hard to tap this back out to right.

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Market 179: Early 750B Sprint Project

Giulietta Sprint 750 B 1493*05372, 1315*04810. This car, for sale on Anamera for 13,500 Euro’s or about $19,500, actually sits in Ventura California.  The body has been primered to even out its appearance and protect it, but anyone taking this on will want to take it down to bare metal and start over.  I’m surprised it is still available considering the lack of rust.

I think primer was a good idea, gives it a look of being ‘almost there’.  Door and hood shut lines look pretty good and the nose is in great shape.  This car must have been very near the end of the small headlight run.

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Market 175: Sprint rebodied by Zagato in Belgium

Update 1/2/10: I changed the location to Belgium as corrected by several readers. I knew making obvious mistakes would get some of you to comment!
Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*04045. This Zagato rebodied Sprint is for sale in Belgium as an SVZ, no price is stated. I list it as a 750B because d’Amico and Tabucchi do not list 04045 as a Veloce and my SVZ book does not list this chassis as having been rebodied by Zagato ‘back in the day’. What does this mean? Not a lot actually. In the first place several period Zagato modified cars are not Veloce’s, in two cases not even Sprints, but rather Spiders. Second, if you spend 4 hours and read through the whole of the “complete SVZ file” on the Alfa BB you will see that (in addition to a lot of confusion) there are a lot of Zagato bodied Alfa’s in race photographs from the late 50’s that are not identified as any particular chassis number. This leads to the third point, if there are a bunch of unknown cars wearing Zagato bodies, couldn’t you just find a Sprint, rebody it in the style of an SVZ and pass it off? This question leads to the fourth point. Even if it was made yesterday it is not easy or cheap to fake an SVZ and if a legitimate coachbuilder today undertook the transformation of a car to the specification of an SVZ it would be very expensive. How expensive? I don’t really know. You tell me. The last point is: most of the original, known, accepted, documented and indisputable SVZ’s don’t wear their ‘back in the day’ body, so even if a somewhat modern recreation -how different would this car really be? Again, your thoughts please oh wise and comment prone reader.

When you look at a car like this you take in little details like the absence of side marker lights, the sliding windows, the shape of the rear quarter windows, the fit of the windshield etc and then go to your history book and try and figure out if any of the blurry black and whites are this car in action. Good times. Oh, and thanks Elmar for the heads up on this one.

Market 144: Naked 750 Sprint project

Update 9/15/09: 24 bids resulted in a selling price of $15,100.  This seems like a lot of money but is not surprising since this car has very little rust, is Mille Miglia elligible (1957 production or before) and runs as it is.   Well sold and if Sprints finally follow a heirarchy similar to 356’s in their valuation breakdown based on age and speciffication, I suspect it will have been well bought.

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*04813, 1315*04310.  This car is on eBay right now out of Newport Beach from the same seller who has brought us a lot of decent Sprint projects and frankly, has set the standard for great presentation.  I don’t know where the paint went, but its absence definitely allows for a warts and all view of the car and it looks very good.

frontclose2There is some lead in the nose, but it looks pretty straight.  Headlight rings, grill and bumper fit well enough.  One marker light is broken and the eyebrows are missing.

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Market 114: Giulietta Sprint Veloce?

Giulietta Sprint 750 1493*08625, Engine 13156*32468.  This car is in Canada and advertised for sale on Anamera.  I had the pleasure of answering a bunch of questions about this car last year when it was for sale in Autoweek out of the South East (Georgia?) for I think it was $29,000.  Well, the car has gotten around as these cars do and now it is as seen here.    The $30,000 question is: Is it a Veloce?

2aeb7c52ccSo far so good.  A very well done car with much attention to detail spent.  Someone in the market for a nice one would be asking for more pictures and information.

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Market 98: Nicest early Sprint I’ve seen

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*01149, Engine 1315*01110 (I think).  This car is one of the earlier Sprints I’ve seen come up for sale and is available now on Anamera for 50,000 Pounds Sterling.  This car is well known to Alfa enthusiasts in Europe, having been displayed in shows and driven on events there by the seller.  A friend who owns several Sprints (early, late, veloce etc) said he wouldn’t hesistate to lay out the cash if he could afford it.  He says that this car is as good in person as the pictures and has been warmed up so that it really goes.

95aec285f4The car at speed.  Note the wire wheels.  Stunning, and I even like the color.

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Market #68: Nice eyebrow Sprint in Mexico

Update:  20 bids, $13,300, reserve not met.  This doesn’t surprise me in light of the detailed pictures the seller added late in the auction, a few of which I added to the end of this post.  I predicted a higher end than this but it light of the new pictures and their evidence of a more than passing need for rust repair and new paint I think the ending price makes some sense, especially if more unpleasant surprises lurk.  I still think this car would see $18,000 or more if it was in California and sold with attention to detail the eBay seller out of Newport Beach usually uses.  Javier, I’m not sure what advise to give you.  It may be worth having the repairs done locally and trying again in the Spring, assuming total financial collapse doesn’t have us operating on the barter system. 

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*04953.  This car is available on eBay out of Temixco Mexico which looks to be close to Mexico City.  Fusi indicates it is a 1957 as claimed by the seller.

I had an email chat with a guy in Mexico about a 59 Sprint that he has and is thinking of selling to fund another Sprint.  His problem is importing old cars to Mexico is very difficult to impossible and his car has a US title and the car he is hoping to buy has a Mexican title.  He is hoping to sell his car in the US.  I told him that people I know would have reservations buying a car out of Mexico because of money exchange complications, shipping and in many cases unfair quality associations with South American countries who send cars to the states that are presentable but worn out.  I told him these perceptions mean the car has to be a very good deal or exceptionally rare to get serious interest from Americans.  I can’t say how Eurpoeans see it, buy I imagine not much differently.  I bring this up because I am hoping this car will prove me wrong.  What can be seen in the images leads me to believe this was a clean original car that was freshened up, albeit straying from original in the interior and drivetrain somewhat. 

b5b6_1Handsome car.  Windows look very clear.  Bright work is bright and straight, paint is shiny, door and hood gaps are average or better.  I know of guys who have sent cars to Mexico for paint and chrome because you can still get ‘the good stuff’ down there and it’s reasonably priced, you just have to have solid recommendations.  Note the big dollar sign on the quarter window.

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Market #58: Very Rough incomplete 56 Sprint

Update 12/2/08:  This car reached $3650 with 24 bidders before ending reserve not met.  I don’t think we’ve seen the last of this car.  As I mentioned before, I am interested in it, but I just couldn’t pull the trigger yesterday while looking at those floors, knowing I have been too chicken to go for it on my SS that doesn’t need this much.

Update 11/25/08: This car is now on eBay. A trunk lid (courtesy of me) and rear glass have been added along with more detailed pictures of the floor and trunk rust. A project for the brave. Opening bid is a realistic $1956 compared to the $6950 asking that was lowered to $5950 when it was on CL. Original engine number for this car was 1315*03053. I may actually bid on this thing.

Giulietta Sprint AR 1493*03146, Engine 1315*40174. This car is available now on Craigslist out of Newport Beach from Fastcars of California. According to Fusi this car was made late in 1956 and the engine came in an early 1956 Spider. These early column shift Sprints don’t come up for sale often and it is doubtful many were made.

This car is likely to define the bottom of the market for early Giulietta Sprints. I’ve seen worse cars being tackled by enthusiasts but those cars are usually purchased for very little money so the first resurrection phase brings their investment up to about this cars starting asking price.

leftfrontTusk style bumperettes are odd and give the car a less than sporty makeover. All in all the trim is there and not too bad but the shape of the front looks to me like it has been pushed in a little.

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giuliettas dot com turns 100!

147 days ago I started this Giuliettas.com blog.  Why?  I guess there was no real central location for auction news (with selling price and pictures), historical musings and small personal mechanical struggles with Giuliettas.  No one-stop-shop if you will.  Now that I have been at it a while I have to ask myself: What have I done?  I’ve created a small, usually quiet readership who send me a nudge whenever a few days goes by and I haven’t put up a new post.  I appreciate the comments, no matter how brief or off topic and market alert emails (Paul and Ian come first to mind) they keep me going when I wonder what the point is and help a lot when I don’t have the time to search on my own for cars.  I thought this blog would just be a lunchtime meditiation to help me avoid all of the horrible Silicon Valley California fast food lunch invites and fill gaps between work projects.  It has done these and much more, I’ve even made some friends along the way. 

SS going fast in the dirt back when the world was a simpler place to live.

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