Spider Veloce’s – Page 6

January 21, 2010

Market 182: project Spider Veloce 06721 in Italy

Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1495*06721, 1315*32582. This car is listed on Anamera right now out of Torino Italy. Numbers match, body looks good, hard to find parts are present and no price is stated. Original color was light blue. Car is SWB and has vent windows, a combination that stirs a lot of folks up. I don’t see any evidence that it was reimported from USA but most of these cars ended up in the USA when new so it wouldn’t surprise me if it did too.

This is how you want to find them, dusty, together, on tires holding air and evenly aged. Hood and door fit are excellent. Who’s peeking out of the shop?

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January 21, 2010

Spider Veloce market review 2008

Before 1966 or so, when an Alfa model was called Veloce it really meant something special. After that they all seem to be Veloce’s in the US market at least -not that they’re not special, just that it became standard for them to be called Veloce. Other countries have Juniors, but not normale’s. Anyway, here are the Spider Veloce’s I reported on in 2008 -all two of them!

Market 33 was 1495*10203, going reserve not met for $14,100. Car did sell but I didn’t get a final price. It turned up in Italy and did a brief run on eBay there but I forgot to record what happened.

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January 5, 2010

Market 176: Interim Spider Veloce

Update 1/12/10: Auction ended with 18 bids at $16,751. If the commenter who outlined this cars history on Craigslist is right, then this is a pretty good result for the seller. Not really a bad price to pay for a Spider Veloce either if that’s what you want and you’re looking for a pretty good project.

Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1495*05693. This car, an early 1959, is on eBay out of Colorado. It looks like the seller saw the action some Spider Veloce’s were getting in late 2009 and decided it was time to send it on its way.

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December 31, 2009

Spider Veloce market review 2009

With just under 2800 Giuliettas and about 1000 Giulias ever made, the Spider Veloce is not the rarest of the 750/101 series cars, but it is the model with probably the highest collector recognition and demand in the model range. Add to this some peculiarities of production that create some groups within the range that are very desirable: about 50 1956 & 57 short wheel base (SWB) cars that are Mille Miglia eligible, another handful of 1958 SWB, 750 series engine powered cars, and the 1000 odd Giulia 1600 Spiders with essentially 1600 SS tune, and you see how these groups divide and how values should break down within the group.

Below are the Spider Veloce sales I recorded in 2009. I would break them down along the above mentioned lines, but then I would have bunch of 2 or 3 car comparisons, so here they are, least to most expensive and as with the other market reports, price mentioned is either asking price if no sale price was recorded, auction sale price or the price range I suspect they sold in.

Market 78 was 10107 167162, an interim car in need of everything that sold for $1000. A bargain if you compare it to cheap Normales that need the same amount of work.

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December 18, 2009

Market 150: Late 750F Spider Veloce

Update 12/25/09: Another close call for this car. 14 bidders did their thing and could only muster $19,200 worth of reserve not meeting enthusiasm for this car. I’m not sure what could have been done differently, I think it’s just another case of too many trips through the pixels on eBay and everyone thinks it’s got problems that they are unaware of. I’d throw $20K at it if I had it.
Another update 12/18/09: The seller has indicated in a big bold description update that he had it slightly backward and the car is 1495*07582 NOT 07852. I just looked at the pictures in the link and it is iindeed 07582.

Update 12/18/09: This car has found itself back on eBay. When it started, a reasonable seeming (compared to Market 169’s $50K result) buy it now of $20,000 was in place but it has since disappeared and the current bid is about $17,500. I suspect it will find a new home this time around.

This car still looks like a pretty good restoration candidate to me. I recognize this background foliage from Market’s 63 and 49.

Update 10/12/09: Car was bid up to $15,100 with 8 bidders, reserve not met. Pretty low for a Veloce with both a numbered replacement Veloce engine installed including the 40DCO3’s etc and the original block.

Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1495*07852, 1315*32895 + 1315*31612 from 750F 1495*04673. This car is on eBay right now out of Daytona Beach FL. Car is a project, but looks like it could be made a runner/driver with out much fuss.

All of the usual praise applies here too with the exception of a missing hood spear. Nose doesn’t look to have been run into the back of big American cars too frequently as is so often the case, and all the little bits than would have you combing eBay night after night are all present. Judging by details like the presence of the correct rear view mirror and wipers being where and how they ought, I would guess this car hasn’t been monkeyed with too much (no offense to any chimps in the audience).

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October 19, 2009

Market 155: 58 Spider Veloce

Update 10/27/09: Wow – 40 bidders drove the price of this car up to $44, 421! Very strong money for a ‘driver’ condition Spider Veloce, but a price which I think in the years to come will seem a bargain. Not a lot of short wheel base Spider Veloce’s were made.

Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1496*05063, 1315*31917. This Spider is on eBay right now out of Washington. It’s not perfect, but it is not pretending to be and all in all it looks like a pretty great car to “take to the next level” if you are in the market for an early Spider Veloce. It’s got a little more than 3 days left to the auction and is at $25K.

Looks good. I like a car that has an honest description of the condition that actually matches what is seen. Everything I usually point out is present and in good shape. Borrani steels are considered correct for Veloce’s but the parts book indicates it’s an either or deal. Popular belief (I”ve heard stories of Fergats breaking int he track) is that Borrani’s are stronger than Fergat’s so maybe the Veloce’s unofficially always had them.

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October 14, 2009

Market 119: Cheap Giulietta Spider Racer

Update 10/20/09: 28 bidders resulted in a seling price of $13,500. This is very low for this car. A competitive 1300 engine alone is close to $10K to build. I wish I wasn’t paring down myself or I would have jumped in! Another Giulietta heads for Germany.

Update 10/14/09: This car is back on eBay. Previous buyer and now seller has a pretty comprehensive description and you now know exactly what you are getting. If nothing else, the auction is worth a visit to see some vintage pictures of it in action. I wonder what has been done to the engine? Cams? Big valves? Look for a solid end price this time.

Looks like fun. These cars look good with no grill trims at all.

It’s hard to put a price on proven track time. This car seems to have it. I want a race car!

Giulietta Spider Race Car 10103 1495*11341. This car was on eBay briefly last week and ended BUY IT NOW on 5/22/09 for $12,000. Someone got an amazing deal or ripped off and I suspect the latter. If you know this car drop me a line.

Good color, great panel fit, very nice trim condition.

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September 28, 2009

Market 149: One owner 1600 Spider Veloce kit

Update 9/28/09: 39 bidders managed to get it up to $10,100 but the reserve was not met. That price would have represented a good buy, heck, anything under about $15,000 would be a good buy to someone who can put it together from all those parts in the pictures. It costs the same amount and takes the same amount of time to restore a Normale versus a Veloce and the Veloce ends up worth nearly twice what the Normale is so there is no reason this car shouldn’t go for good money.

Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 10118*39018X. This 1964 one owner Spider is on eBay out of Milwakee Wisconsin right now. Seller has withheld the last number in the vin “for privacy”. This is sort of funny since for new vehicles the VIN is a requirement and 85%+ of old vehicles (Alfa’s at least) list their vin. Sounds like typical ingenuous internet paranoia to me.

Body looks okay. Door shut lines aren’t great, hood fit isn’t either. Wheels need finishing. I think the new owner will have a lot to do.

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August 10, 2009

Market 134: 750F Spider Veloce

Update 8/10/09: This car sold for $24,700 with 7 bidders in the hunt. The seller noted that the engine was incorrect and bidding seems to have taken this into account. This money seems about right for the car. There is a Veloce block on eBay right now that would be acceptible for this car, the new owner should consider snapping it up.

Giulietta Spider Veloce 1495*04178, 1315*44341. This Spider Veloce is on eBay from Brighton Motorsports in Arizona. It is listed as being numbers matching but it clearly has a Spider Normale series engine number, so either it’s not really a Veloce or the engine has been replaced. I suspect the latter since it comes with all the Veloce components installed and the Veloce engines were known to fail if not properly maintained. Also, Veloce’s tended to be built in pairs or groups and 04177 is a Veloce. I’ll check d’A&T tonight and update. I emailed the seller about this and they said they would note it on their auction but they haven’t yet. Some discussion has been made of this car on the Yahoo group for these cars and other discrepancies have been pointed out. d’Amico and Tabucchi say 04155 – 04229 are all Veloce’s so I think there is a good chance this car is a Veloce.

Nose ridge is shapely and blends to the edge of the grill nicely. Some guys take the stamped edge off the grill so there is a smooth transition between the body and trim. Between the grill and drivers side over rider the paint looks bubbly or textured by being sprayed over crud. Have a look before you buy.

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June 17, 2009

Market 123: Barn Find late Spider Veloce

Update 6/17/09: “The seller ended this listing early to sell to the high bidder(s) at current bid price.” 50 bids, $25,300 and the seller ended early to sell to the current high bidder. I guess eBay has figured out that there was no way they could keep this from happening so they have embraced the off auction sale. $25k for this car is about right in my opinion.

Giulia Spider Veloce 10118*390214, engine 00121*01727. This car is available out of Southern California on eBay and includes the rare Pininfarina factory steel hardtop. Auction description is lengthy and included at the end. Seller states the car is a 1965 and no doubt that is what the title says, but d&T and Fusi both indicate it was manufactured in 1964.

This is how you find them and when you are very lucky you are the first one to find them and get a very good deal. I don’t think I would do much to this car at this point, just make it safe and clean. By the shape of the ovals in the wheels these are Borrani’s. There late Veloce’s seem to always have these wheels.

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