Market 155: 58 Spider Veloce

Update 10/27/09:  Wow – 40 bidders drove the price of this car up to $44, 421!  Very strong money for a ‘driver’ condition Spider Veloce, but a price which I think in the years to come will seem a bargain.  Not a lot of short wheel base Spider Veloce’s were made.

Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1496*05063, 1315*31917.  This Spider is on eBay right now out of Washington.  It’s not perfect, but it is not pretending to be and all in all it looks like a pretty great car to “take to the next level” if you are in the market for an early Spider Veloce. It’s got a little more than 3 days left to the auction and is at $25K.

!Bc54lpwBmk~$(KGrHqUOKjkEq5UJorjkBK2j83Pqhg~~_3Looks good.  I like a car that has an honest description of the condition that actually matches what is seen.  Everything I usually point out is  present and in good shape.  Borrani steels are considered correct for Veloce’s but the parts book indicates it’s an either or deal.  Popular belief (I”ve heard stories of Fergats breaking int he track) is that Borrani’s are stronger than Fergat’s so maybe the Veloce’s unofficially always had them.

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Market 119: Cheap Giulietta Spider Racer

Update 10/20/09: 28 bidders resulted in a seling price of $13,500. This is very low for this car. A competitive 1300 engine alone is close to $10K to build. I wish I wasn’t paring down myself or I would have jumped in! Another Giulietta heads for Germany.

Update 10/14/09: This car is back on eBay. Previous buyer and now seller has a pretty comprehensive description and you now know exactly what you are getting. If nothing else, the auction is worth a visit to see some vintage pictures of it in action. I wonder what has been done to the engine? Cams? Big valves? Look for a solid end price this time.

310250106_oLooks like fun. These cars look good with no grill trims at all.

310250114_oIt’s hard to put a price on proven track time. This car seems to have it. I want a race car!

Giulietta Spider Race Car 10103 1495*11341. This car was on eBay briefly last week and ended BUY IT NOW on 5/22/09 for $12,000. Someone got an amazing deal or ripped off and I suspect the latter. If you know this car drop me a line.

ar%20(2)Good color, great panel fit, very nice trim condition.

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Market 153: 750D Spider roller project

Update 10/20/09: 8 bids drove this car to $5451.45, a nice round number. Decent money and probably right at that point where the buyer and seller are happy. Another Giulietta off to foreign shores?

Giulietta Spider 1495*06230, 1315*05817.  This roller of a project Spider is on eBay right now out of Huntington Beach california.  Car was made 3/9/1959 and is a short wheelbase interim car.  Looks fairly complete but in need of a lot of help.  Engine is not original.  Opening bid is $5000, less than the aggregate parts value and very reasonable for a project this complete.

spider nose 06320Nose is a little busted up but not horribly.  Hood does what it was designed for.  These cars look tough without a windshield.

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Market 151: Nice Red Spider

Update 10/12/09:  No takers at $34,500 which is a surprise, usually cars that have had this much work lavished on them sell because there is a whole segment of buyers who know you get a lot for free when you buy a restored car.  Isn’t the saying that you buy the restoration and get the car for free? Has a few faults but is as good as or better than cars that have sold for more.  If I were the seller I’d do some light detail work under the hood and relist it next March when everyone has convertible fever.

Giulietta Spider 10103*170689. This car is on eBay right now out of Southern California. Car looks great in the pictures but for the $34,500 buy it now asking price, there are a few details that should be a little better, especially if the claimed outlay of cash is genuine. It does look great though!

spider nose low 170686Very nice angle on the iconic Giulietta Spider. I agree with the seller that the front is a little cleaner without the grill ‘tusks’. Stance looks good and if it handles like it promises then it will be sweet.

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Market 118: Nice Giulietta TI in Mexico

Update 3/18/10: Story continues only the sale venue has changed… now available at MaercadoLibre for $95,000, pesos that is.  About $7300.  A good deal methinks if you are cool with the idea of buying a car out of Mexico…

A little Q&A from the ad:

Q: “buddy for the linkage is that if you put it like this for the velocities to the column has not been since ?—- and second type of box I adapt it ?…. I have on hand 80 one after another? if you are not interested ‘… and if you can send more pictures of the board xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com trunk etc. .. saludos”

A: “he adapted the case of an Alfa Romeo, the original box tiene.junta not more money (notice it’s clear I’m not topping.)”

Update 10/12/09: 2 bidders, $6100, reserve met.  I wonder if it sold?  Would be a great bargain at that price if it was around here!

Update 9/29/09: Back on eBay after a brief respite.  This TI seems like a pretty good deal for someone in the western hemisphere looking for one.

Update 5/28/09: Sold! $7000, reserve met with 13 bids.  Andrew says: “Seems like a steal if you’re in Mexico or have an assured way of getting it out of the country.”  I agree.  Let’s see if it sticks.

1959 Giulietta TI 1468*22622.  This car is available right now on eBay out of Guadalajara Mexico.  Seller states it is a 1960 model, but from the time of manufacture to crating it up to be finish assembled in Mexico by Willy’s, a period import requirement to provide jobs, to the time spent on a show room floor, I could see a year or more easily passing.

!BS0oNIwB2k~$(KGrHgoOKiYEjlLmep38BKFHvZYtl!~~_3I really like this series of Giulietta Sedan.  The grill work up front has a more jovial expression than the Sprint and Spider.  Overall the car looks good.  I like the color and everything seems to fit together well.

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Market 138: 750D Spider project

Update 10/12/09:  $4250, 25 bids, reserve met.  Doesn’t happen very often that a car does better the second time around.  This means my Spider is under-priced!

Update 9/28/09: It’s back. I guess the high bidder last time got cold feet.

Update 8/10/09: Sold for $3102 with 15 bidders. I guess this means my $4000 asking for my Spider is about right.

Giulietta Spider 1495*05384. This project car is available right now on eBay out of British Columbia Canada. $400 opening bid is a sensible starting place and with the amount of information given about the car it may not be far from the end price. To it’s credit it is basically complete.

Spider 05384 noseAverage Spider checks in for some work and never checks out. The body looks to have been in pretty good shape. Rust, rust and rust seem to have exerted themselves. No quarter (wing) windows. Sigh.

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Market 149: One owner 1600 Spider Veloce kit

Update 9/28/09: 39 bidders managed to get it up to $10,100 but the reserve was not met.    That price would have represented a good buy, heck, anything under about $15,000 would be a good buy to someone who can put it together from all those parts in the pictures.  It costs the same amount and takes the same amount of time to restore a Normale versus a Veloce and the Veloce ends up worth nearly twice what the Normale is so there is no reason this car shouldn’t go for good money.

Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 10118*39018X.  This 1964 one owner Spider is on eBay out of Milwakee Wisconsin right now.  Seller has withheld the last number in the vin “for privacy”.  This is sort of funny since for new vehicles the VIN is a requirement and 85%+ of old vehicles (Alfa’s at least) list their vin.  Sounds like typical ingenuous internet paranoia to me.

1600 veloce pass angleBody looks okay.  Door shut lines aren’t great, hood fit isn’t either.  Wheels need finishing.  I think the new owner will have a lot to do.

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A new page and suggestions please

This story, that each of these cars is a part of the unfolding of, has a perfect format for the telling and I am struggling to find it. I have been writing a “Giulietta models” page on and off for months and every time I work on it I think it might be time to build a real website with links to pages and all but this too would lead to limitations.

The story is all at once a history with a genesis, a genealogy, accounts of the heroic deeds of remarkable family members and the humans that operated them on race tracks and winding mountain roads, a tale of economic forces, a tale of product life-cycle and today a tale of restoration, preservation and history. I have been telling this tale ad hoc, as the material comes available and time allows, but the time is coming when the whole singular tale could be told from the pieces.

An early SS advertising photo.
An early SS advertising photo.

So what am I getting at here? I guess this is another call for help. You all know how you would like the story to look, how the pieces would fit together and tell the larger tale. I want some recommendations. Is there a book I should get that is exemplary in its presentation of this sort of history? I have a lot of Alfa history type books but they all focus on a piece of the story, and even the best are budget limited and thereby content limited by the publisher.

Have a look at the beginnings of the new page and send me an email or post a comment.

By the way, woo hoo, this is my 300th post!

Market 144: Naked 750 Sprint project

Update 9/15/09: 24 bids resulted in a selling price of $15,100.  This seems like a lot of money but is not surprising since this car has very little rust, is Mille Miglia elligible (1957 production or before) and runs as it is.   Well sold and if Sprints finally follow a heirarchy similar to 356’s in their valuation breakdown based on age and speciffication, I suspect it will have been well bought.

Giulietta Sprint 750B 1493*04813, 1315*04310.  This car is on eBay right now out of Newport Beach from the same seller who has brought us a lot of decent Sprint projects and frankly, has set the standard for great presentation.  I don’t know where the paint went, but its absence definitely allows for a warts and all view of the car and it looks very good.

frontclose2There is some lead in the nose, but it looks pretty straight.  Headlight rings, grill and bumper fit well enough.  One marker light is broken and the eyebrows are missing.

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Market 147: Sprint Veloce racer 1493E09676

Giulietta Sprint 1493E09676, 1315*32720. This car is available right now out of Finland on RaceCarsforSale with an asking price of 32,000 Euro’s. It looks to be mainly a track car, but since it started life as a street car it shouldn’t be too much trouble to make it street worthy if that is your desire -I know it would be mine.

960_3Looks tight and racy. Body is in good shape on cursory inspection. Presence of trim, windshield wipers and lights makes me think it is probably driveable on the street as is. Rear wheels look widened.

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