{"id":8061,"date":"2012-04-11T21:19:50","date_gmt":"2012-04-12T04:19:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=8061"},"modified":"2012-04-11T21:19:50","modified_gmt":"2012-04-12T04:19:50","slug":"market-261-1600-spider-in-buffalo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2012\/04\/11\/market-261-1600-spider-in-buffalo\/","title":{"rendered":"Market 261: 1600 Spider 10123 375767 in Idaho (was in Buffalo)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Update 7\/1\/12:<\/strong>  Seller has commented that this car has sold and is happy with the sale price.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 4\/11\/12:<\/strong> 18 months later this car turns up in VERY nice shape on <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ebaymotors\/Beautiful-18-Month-Restoration-Veloce-Engine-\/180861253291?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&amp;hash=item2a1c2bb6ab#v4-42\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">eBay<\/a> with a respectable $62,000 buy it now price.\u00a0 List of work done reads like a wish list for my car.\u00a0 Goes to show that even when you start with an excellent car there is a lot to do to make it &#8216;right&#8217; if that&#8217;s your aim.\u00a0 If you read the original ad below I mention that it had a Sprint seat adjusting knob and that I had an extra Spider one -I sold it to this seller, so a humble part from my stash is incorporated here.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/screen-shot-2012-04-11-at-10-45-28-pm.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11206\" title=\"Screen shot 2012-04-11 at 10.45.28 PM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/screen-shot-2012-04-11-at-10-45-28-pm.png?resize=525%2C393\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"393\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Very nice Kevin!\u00a0 Don&#8217;t know that eBay is the right place to list this, but it&#8217;s amazing to see the transformation.\u00a0 Unusual perspective this.<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">&#8220;This car was purchased about two years ago then underwent an extensive restoration over the past 18 months. The engine in the car when purchased is a Veloce motor (AR00121.01792) that had been rebuilt.\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">Exterior:<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Body taken to bare metal where we experienced very little rust. Any repairs were made with metal not filler<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Correct red for the period applied in multiple coats with wet sanding in between then clear coat applied.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Wheels were stripped and coated with correct color silver epoxy paint<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-The top was disassembled and the frame painted with black epoxy<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New cloth top was fitted<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Engine bay and trunk are immaculate \u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-The underside of the car is as clean as you can get with new tinted bed liner\/undercoating applied (better than typical undercoating)<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-The inside floors and firewall are also coated with red bed liner\/undercoating for sound deadening.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All cables replaced<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All new rubber gaskets around tail lights, headlights, badges etc. from Italy<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Brand New Vredestein tires 165 x 15 (as a result the wheel wells are more full).<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Windsheild wiper motor cleaned and works well<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All chrome is in excellent condition\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Fuel tank disassembled throughly cleaned and restored<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New fuel tank strap felt<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">Interior<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Seats are hand selected black leather with red piping and new foam inserts<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Italian wool carpets from Reoriginals<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New gauge faces<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Gauges refurbished and calibrated (tach makes a ticking noise on low RPM&#8217;s)<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Steering wheel polished\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New wiring harness from Auto Italia Sportiva<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New rubber floor, under tire and trunk mats from Italy<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New leather top tie down straps<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Red vinyl appropriately placed under and behind seats<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Spare tire clip and new Vredestein tire<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Hush mat under rubber mats for additional sound deadening<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Heater cleaned and painted<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All switches and lights work<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Dash chrome has some slight pitting<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New seat belts<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All new heater piping<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All new fresh air tubing in engine bay<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">Engine &amp; Transmission<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">&#8211; Veloce engine AR00121.01792 Rebuilt previous to my purchase.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-All Veloce parts that could be found have been installed. The plenum cover is not correct for this model year.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Dual Weber DCOE 40 carburetors<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New high output Dynalite alternator looks correct for car<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New headers and complete exhaust system<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Transmission previously restored with engine<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New plugs and silicone wires<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New NAPA battery with Marelli sticker<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Radiator fully restored<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><strong><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">Suspension and brakes<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New Koni shocks and Centerline springs which lowered car about 1\/2&#8243; from stock<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-New oversized sway bar and bushings<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Brakes have plenty of life and were not replaced.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Brake lines replaced<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">-Suspension stops replaced front and rear<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">Issues that I&#8217;m aware of are the pitting in the dash chrome, ticking low RPM tachometer, incorrect plenum top. I&#8217;m sure some Alfista will find a few other things but great care has been taken to restore the car and insure that it is correct with the exception of replacing the Veloce engine with a Normale engine. The Veloce engine as it sits is worth upwards of $15000 as the 00121 numbered engines are quite rare. If one wanted to replace the Veloce engine, Normale engines are readily available, then you could sell the Veloce engine or use it for a Veloce project.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">The car starts up well and runs like it just came from the factory. The extra horsepower from the Veloce engine really gives it a boost, along with the dual Webers. I have four other Alfa&#8217;s (all Veloces) two of which are currently being restored so I need some room. I don&#8217;t think you could find an \u00a0Normale or Abnormale with a Veloce engine in this good of shape anywhere. It&#8217;s truly stunning and it&#8217;s all done and ready to drive. More pictures available upon request.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">Sold as is where is. No refunds. You are welcome to have it inspected or inspect yourself. I can help arrange transport.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-family:Arial;font-size:small;\">Thank you for looking.&#8221;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Update 9\/21\/10:<\/strong> 38 bids resulted $26,211, not bad at all.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Giulia Spider 1600 10123*<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/26218757@N06\/sets\/72157624833796241\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">375767<\/a><\/strong>.\u00a0 This pretty darn nice 1600 Spider is on <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ebaymotors\/Alfa-Romeo-Spider-Alfa-Romeo-1963-Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-1600-Spider-\/220667972532?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&amp;hash=item3360d60bb4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">eBay<\/a> right now out of Buffalo New York.\u00a0 Car was restored ten years ago and it still looks great.\u00a0 Check it out.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/screen-shot-2012-04-11-at-10-39-37-pm.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11205\" title=\"Screen shot 2012-04-11 at 10.39.37 PM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/screen-shot-2012-04-11-at-10-39-37-pm.png?resize=501%2C333\" alt=\"\" width=\"501\" height=\"333\" \/><\/a>Very nice with nothing to complain about.\u00a0 Valence seems to be hanging down more on the drivers than passenger side, may be a trick of the light.\u00a0 Hood fit is really good. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0009.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8064\" title=\"0009\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0009.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C199\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0009.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0009.jpg?resize=300%2C199&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Wow -really straight body work on the side.\u00a0 Wheel is Borrani and seems to require a lot of weights to balance.\u00a0 Mirror is later 105 style. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0003.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8063\" title=\"0003\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0003.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C199\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0003.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0003.jpg?resize=300%2C199&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Lookin&#8217; good.\u00a0 No plate?\u00a0 Window of the top is nice and clear.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0027.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8065\" title=\"0027\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0027.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C199\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0027.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0027.jpg?resize=300%2C199&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Interior doesn&#8217;t need anything serious, drivers seat has a Sprint adjustment knob, passenger a Spider one.\u00a0 I have a Spider extra in my pile.\u00a0 Mirror needs resilvering.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0034.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8066\" title=\"0034\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0034.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C199\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0034.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0034.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Gauges are great.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0039.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8067\" title=\"0039\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0039.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C103\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"103\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0039.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0039.jpg?resize=300%2C104&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>This is an NSU German build plate -not sure how much they did to the cars.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0042.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-8068\" title=\"0042\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/0042.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C199\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0042.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/0042.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>The seller doesn&#8217;t give any indication what all went into the engine but obviously something since it has dual Weber carbs and front bolt tabs on the valve cover.\u00a0 Is that a 1300 manifold?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are 24 bids on this car with 6 hours, 18 minutes left and it&#8217;s already $21,000 -a good sign.\u00a0 Will be interesting to see where it ends.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update 7\/1\/12: Seller has commented that this car has sold and is happy with the sale price. Update 4\/11\/12: 18 months later this car turns up in VERY nice shape on eBay with a respectable $62,000 buy it now price.\u00a0 List of work done reads like a wish list for my car.\u00a0 Goes to show &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2012\/04\/11\/market-261-1600-spider-in-buffalo\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Market 261: 1600 Spider 10123 375767 in Idaho (was in Buffalo)&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[42,7,28,30],"tags":[103,118,165],"class_list":["post-8061","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-101s","category-giulietta-giulia-market","category-restored-cars","category-spider-normales","tag-alfa-romeo","tag-classic-cars","tag-spider"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8061","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8061"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8061\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8061"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8061"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8061"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}