{"id":7483,"date":"2010-08-23T00:17:26","date_gmt":"2010-08-23T07:17:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=7483"},"modified":"2010-08-23T00:17:26","modified_gmt":"2010-08-23T07:17:26","slug":"market-230-juliet-spider-velosh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2010\/08\/23\/market-230-juliet-spider-velosh\/","title":{"rendered":"Market 230: &quot;Juliet Spider Velosh&quot;!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Update 9\/7\/10: <\/strong>Well, this sad case has been reduced to an ending -no reserve met- total of $1136 after 3 bids.\u00a0 On the bright side, the phrase &#8216;Tennessee Velosh!&#8221; has entered the Alfa Giulietta lexicon.<br \/>\n<strong>Update 8\/23\/10:<\/strong> This feller is <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ebaymotors\/1958-Alfa-Romeo-Giulietta-Veloce-Rat-Rod-\/220657691655?pt=US_Cars_Trucks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">back on eBay<\/a> -some lucky motoring enthusiast can buy it now for $2700 and figure out what to do with it later.\u00a0 Woot!<br \/>\n<strong>Update 7\/10\/10: <\/strong>Someone liked this enough to buy it now for $2500. \u00a0In one of the Q&amp;A responses the seller says emphatically that this car can&#8217;t be returned to stock. \u00a0With these cars likely to be $100K by the end of the decade I&#8217;m sure some intrepid soul is hoping to prove the seller wrong.<br \/>\n<strong>Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1495*04640 (or 750F 03305), 1315*31655 (Not included). <\/strong>Tennessee is the home of this Spider that&#8217;s on <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ebaymotors\/ws\/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=220631942688&amp;ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123#ht_500wt_977\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">eBay <\/a>right now. \u00a0Vin on the title with the car is 03305, vin on the build plate is 04640 and the vin on the body is unknown -if I had to bet on which is accurate I&#8217;d put my money on the title. \u00a0It&#8217;s ironic\/sad\/frustrating that someone took a roller 58 Spider Veloce probably worth $10 &#8211; 15K of todays money, spent 6 years ruining it by altering it to fit a V8 and Toyota suspension and now are hoping to get $2500 out of it. \u00a0This is what you call a lose-lose situation -I bet they threw out the sheet metal they cut out of it too.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-22-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7489\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.33.22 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-22-am.png?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C220\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-22-am.png?w=499&amp;ssl=1 499w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-22-am.png?resize=300%2C221&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>What do you do with something like this? \u00a0It&#8217;s probably unusable in its current form with all that weight over the front axle, way too much power for the rear end to grip and poor visibility with that scoop.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><!--more--><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-01-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7491\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.33.01 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-01-am.png?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-01-am.png?w=497&amp;ssl=1 497w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-01-am.png?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><strong>Rockers don&#8217;t look too bad, suspension is really high in the front considering it has a Chevy V8 in there. \u00a0Kind of heart breaking really. \u00a0Again, what do you do with it?<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-12-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7490\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.33.12 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-12-am.png?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C195\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-12-am.png?w=499&amp;ssl=1 499w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-12-am.png?resize=300%2C196&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><strong>Judging by the condition of the bumper this car wasn&#8217;t too bad when pulled from an old ladies yard.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-32-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7488\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.33.32 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-32-am.png?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C226\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"226\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-32-am.png?w=497&amp;ssl=1 497w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-32-am.png?resize=300%2C226&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>You would need a donor car to give you a trans tunnel and firewall if you decided to try and get this back to stock. \u00a0There are a lot of rare and otherwise expensive Italian classics that come up for sale with V8&#8217;s and I suppose there&#8217;s a method to follow in bringing them back.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-42-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7487\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.33.42 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-42-am.png?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C227\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"227\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-42-am.png?w=498&amp;ssl=1 498w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-33-42-am.png?resize=300%2C227&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>This has been fundamentally altered and would be difficult to right if that was your aim. \u00a0Maybe get this car to make a street sleeper with a 2 liter or Milano\/164 V6?<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-03-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7486\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.34.03 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-03-am.png?w=226&#038;resize=226%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"226\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-03-am.png?w=375&amp;ssl=1 375w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-03-am.png?resize=226%2C300&amp;ssl=1 226w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 226px) 100vw, 226px\" \/><\/a>The worst thing about this is an $800 Spider from the 70&#8217;s would have supplied all necessary parts to do a somewhat easy (compared to what is seen here) conversion to more HP and brakes without destroying the value of a rare car too much. \u00a0One has to see what was removed to get this engine in here. \u00a0Firewall and inner fenders at least. \u00a0It&#8217;s probably game over if the suspension mount points were removed.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-12-am.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-7485\" title=\"Screen shot 2010-07-06 at 10.34.12 AM\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-12-am.png?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-12-am.png?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/screen-shot-2010-07-06-at-10-34-12-am.png?resize=300%2C226&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>So the whole back of seat area was filled up with stuff -gas tank etc.<\/strong><br \/>\nIn the item description the seller talks about how hard Alfa parts are to find as a reason to have done what they did. \u00a05 minutes on the internet doing research would have turned up Centerline and IAP and dispelled this idea. \u00a0If they dug a little deeper they would have seen that Spider Veloce&#8217;s of this vintage were around $40K as good condition drivers when they bought it \u00a0and as such may not have cut and welded on it with such reckless abandon.<br \/>\nWhat would I do if this was given to me? \u00a0I&#8217;d probably find a rusty donor normale and set to bringing it back&#8230; it would be a serious undertaking but for me half of the hobby is in the doing and if someone had the DIY skills to get this back to the point of being a bodywork and paint project the car could be saved but I doubt this will happen any time soon.<br \/>\nThe way I see it the only up side here is the fact that it wasn&#8217;t hauled off for scrap, that there is a slight chance for this car to rise again, and that chance will get better as values for early Veloce&#8217;s continue to rise.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update 9\/7\/10: Well, this sad case has been reduced to an ending -no reserve met- total of $1136 after 3 bids.\u00a0 On the bright side, the phrase &#8216;Tennessee Velosh!&#8221; has entered the Alfa Giulietta lexicon. Update 8\/23\/10: This feller is back on eBay -some lucky motoring enthusiast can buy it now for $2700 and figure &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2010\/08\/23\/market-230-juliet-spider-velosh\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Market 230: &quot;Juliet Spider Velosh&quot;!&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[67,7,16,22,31],"tags":[103,114,118,176],"class_list":["post-7483","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-750f","category-giulietta-giulia-market","category-modified-cars","category-project-cars","category-spider-veloces","tag-alfa-romeo","tag-cars","tag-classic-cars","tag-veloce"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7483","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7483"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7483\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7483"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7483"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7483"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}