{"id":5121,"date":"2009-10-19T09:28:17","date_gmt":"2009-10-19T16:28:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=5121"},"modified":"2009-10-19T09:28:17","modified_gmt":"2009-10-19T16:28:17","slug":"market-155-58-spider-veloce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2009\/10\/19\/market-155-58-spider-veloce\/","title":{"rendered":"Market 155: 58 Spider Veloce"},"content":{"rendered":"

Update 10\/27\/09:\u00a0 <\/strong>Wow\u00a0– 40 bidders drove the price of this car up to $44, 421!\u00a0 Very strong money for a ‘driver’ condition Spider Veloce, but a price which I think in the years to come will seem a bargain.\u00a0 Not a lot of short wheel base Spider Veloce’s were made.<\/p>\n

Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1496*05063, 1315*31917.\u00a0 <\/strong>This Spider is on eBay right now <\/a>out of Washington.\u00a0 It’s not perfect, but it is not pretending to be and all in all it looks like a pretty great car to “take to the next level” if you are in the market for an early Spider Veloce. It’s got a little more than 3 days left to the auction and is at $25K.<\/p>\n

\"!Bc54lpwBmk~$(KGrHqUOKjkEq5UJorjkBK2j83Pqhg~~_3\"<\/a>Looks good.\u00a0 I like a car that has an honest description of the condition that actually matches what is seen.\u00a0 Everything I usually point out is\u00a0 present and in good shape.\u00a0 Borrani steels are considered correct for\u00a0Veloce’s but the parts book indicates it’s an either or deal.\u00a0 Popular belief (I”ve heard stories of Fergats breaking int he track) is that Borrani’s are stronger than Fergat’s so maybe the Veloce’s unofficially always had them.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\"!Bc53)5QB2k~$(KGrHqQOKiQEq47YWg4UBK2j5PJKzg~~_3\"<\/a>Another nice view.\u00a0 Compared to below, the trunk grows quite a bit when the top is removed.\u00a0 Rear end sits up kind of high.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"!Bc54V)w!Wk~$(KGrHqUOKjkEq5UJorjkBK2j7o1fFw~~_3\"<\/a>Look at how much longer the trunk looks.\u00a0 Brightwork is pretty good on this car.\u00a0 The club is so 1994.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"!Bc531zgCGk~$(KGrHqYOKiQEq5B3VJT5BK2j5gVvpw~~_3\"<\/a>Trunk fits very well.\u00a0 This is the Washington equivalent of a ‘black plate’.\u00a0 Body work looks to have been well done based on the distortions in the reflection.\u00a0 Look at the horizon line next to the drivers side tail light.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Auction Text: ”<\/p>\n

1959 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F. Real Veloce, not an “abnormale”. This car belonged to my grandfather, and was subjected to a full rotisserie\/bare shell, photo-documented restoration in 2002. Sadly, he passed away during the restoration and was not able to see the completed car. I have had the car since the restoration was finished but now the demands of a small business and a new mortgage are forcing me to reduce the collection and this lovely Alfa has to find a new owner.<\/p>\n

Overall, this Giulietta is a solid #2 or #2+ using the standard 1-5 classic car rating scale. It is definitely a driver not a show car, and as it gets driven a lot it is well-sorted and very reliable. Despite the temperamental reputation of the 750 Veloce, this car starts up quickly and idles easily even after sitting for a few days or weeks. As a driver it does have some minor imperfections, noted below, but the body is solid and completely rust-free, the paint was done to a very, very high standard and is holding up well and it\u2019s mechanically excellent.<\/p>\n

In addition to the full restoration, a number of upgrades were made, including:<\/p>\n

Magneto ignition conversion<\/p>\n

Displacement increased to 1500cc<\/p>\n

Carillo rods<\/p>\n

Full stage 5 head from Sperry Valve Works<\/p>\n

5-speed gearbox conversion (done without modifying the transmission tunnel)<\/p>\n

Spin-on oil filter conversion<\/p>\n

The result is a tractable but powerful motor. This car is very easy to drive quickly but can also sit in traffic (although, why would you?).<\/p>\n

Notable issues include:<\/p>\n

Some imperfections in the paint around the deck lid where the convertible top lands<\/p>\n

Seat padding needs to be replaced<\/p>\n

The Pirelli P3s are getting old and really should be replaced<\/p>\n

The convertible top is coming away from the header rail (shown in the photos)<\/p>\n

The horn ring plastic covering is missing, but I am including a good replacement horn ring<\/p>\n

The original air cleaner is missing, but I am including a correct replacement Veloce air cleaner housing and hardware<\/p>\n

The restoration shop cobbled together an external thermostat housing (shown in the photos) but I am including the correct in-line thermostat<\/p>\n

The oil temperature gauge is not working<\/p>\n

The fuel gauge is wildly inaccurate<\/p>\n

And, of course, what\u2019s with the green engine compartment? Good question. My grandfather was a noted specialist in Italian and British sports and racing cars and he was meticulous in his restorations \u2013 both the work that he did and the work that was done for him \u2013 but he was somewhat eccentric when it came to colors. He liked a colorful engine bay, hence the paint scheme, non-original polished cam covers, etc. Not a difficult area to change as the green extends only as far as the \u201cframe rails\u201d.<\/p>\n

This car has been part of my family for a long time. It has passed from my grandfather to my father and then to me. My wife and I left our wedding in it and we have taken it on many wonderful drives over the last few years. It has been much loved and cared for, but it\u2019s time for it to find a new home.<\/p>\n

Engine number: AR1315*31917
\nCorrect DC03 Weber carbs
\n77mm cylinder bore using high compression JE pistons. Sperry indicates a 1500cc displacement with this setup.
\nStock veloce rods, polished and balanced (not Carillo rods as indicated above)
\nSperry stage 5 head (port\/polish, oversize valves, custom cam grind)
\nNitrided crank
\nVertex magneto ignition”<\/p>\n

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\"!Bc54)1!CGk~$(KGrHgoOKjwEjlLmV5FdBK2j9yWrfw~~_3\"<\/a>I would get rid of all this red piping.\u00a0 It’s too fat and way to busy, but it was how a lot of these came.\u00a0 Just my preference folks.\u00a0 Gauges are a little yellow, carpets look kind of tired.\u00a0 All in all it could be fixed up to the new owners standard fairly easily.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"!Bc53grQCGk~$(KGrHqMOKiMEq46M,09QBK2j37oZs!~~_3\"<\/a>I think the Italian flag colors are being honored here.\u00a0 I’d go red pretty quickly after receiving the car, but again, that’s just me.\u00a0 Air box is missing and vent ducting is the usual OSH stuff, but it looks pretty clean and purposeful under here.\u00a0 I like the custom inline thermostat.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"!Bc53mfQ!Wk~$(KGrHqQOKiIEq49g4CNKBK2j4(p9lw~~_3\"<\/a>The ever important F that combined with a bunch of other details says Veloce.\u00a0 Wiring clamp screw should be a standard cheese head or whatever they call it.\u00a0 Oh well.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"!Bc54MV!B2k~$(KGrHqQOKjIEq43mEwu)BK2j69vYSg~~_3\"<\/a>If the whole underside is like this then I would call it a pretty clean car.\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n

750 Spiders, especially 57 and before cars are pretty sought after right now.\u00a0 I bet rich guys are hoarding them against the day they are $100K cars.\u00a0 This car is just quirky enough that it might be had for a seeming bargain.\u00a0 Lack of rust, matching numbers and original intake parts make this a blue chip investment.<\/p>\n

Another 750F Veloce.<\/a><\/p>\n

And Another.<\/a><\/p>\n

And yet another.<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Update 10\/27\/09:\u00a0 Wow\u00a0– 40 bidders drove the price of this car up to $44, 421!\u00a0 Very strong money for a ‘driver’ condition Spider Veloce, but a price which I think in the years to come will seem a bargain.\u00a0 Not a lot of short wheel base Spider Veloce’s were made. Giulietta Spider Veloce 750F 1496*05063, … <\/p>\n

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