{"id":4874,"date":"2009-09-28T10:16:43","date_gmt":"2009-09-28T17:16:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=4874"},"modified":"2009-09-28T10:16:43","modified_gmt":"2009-09-28T17:16:43","slug":"market-149-one-owner-1600-spider-veloce-kit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2009\/09\/28\/market-149-one-owner-1600-spider-veloce-kit\/","title":{"rendered":"Market 149: One owner 1600 Spider Veloce kit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Update 9\/28\/09: <\/strong>39 bidders managed to get it up to $10,100 but the reserve was not met.\u00a0 \u00a0 That price would have represented a good buy, heck, anything under about $15,000 would be a good buy to someone who can put it together from all those parts in the pictures.\u00a0 It costs the same amount and takes the same amount of time to restore a Normale versus a Veloce and the Veloce ends up worth nearly twice what the Normale is so there is no reason this car shouldn&#8217;t go for good money.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Giulia Spider Veloce 1600 10118*39018X.<\/strong>\u00a0 This 1964 one owner Spider is on <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ebaymotors\/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-Spider-VELOCE-101-All-original-One-Owner-car-58k-TIME-CAPSULE_W0QQitemZ170384923069QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27abbb99bd&amp;_trksid=p4506.c0.m245\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">eBay out of Milwakee <\/a>Wisconsin right now.\u00a0 Seller has withheld the last number in the vin &#8220;for privacy&#8221;.\u00a0 This is sort of funny since for new vehicles the VIN is a requirement and 85%+ of old vehicles (Alfa&#8217;s at least)\u00a0list their vin.\u00a0 Sounds like typical ingenuous internet paranoia to me.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-si2kkgrhqyh-eyeqvrs-rwbktqi4pvhg_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4879\" title=\"1600 veloce pass angle\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-si2kkgrhqyh-eyeqvrs-rwbktqi4pvhg_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"1600 veloce pass angle\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-si2kkgrhqyh-eyeqvrs-rwbktqi4pvhg_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-si2kkgrhqyh-eyeqvrs-rwbktqi4pvhg_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Body looks okay.\u00a0 Door shut lines aren&#8217;t great, hood fit isn&#8217;t either.\u00a0 Wheels need finishing.\u00a0 I think the new owner will have a lot to do.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-o5qb2kkgrhqmh-eeequyoedhkbktqitmti_121.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4884\" title=\"1600 veloce drive side\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-o5qb2kkgrhqmh-eeequyoedhkbktqitmti_121.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"1600 veloce drive side\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-o5qb2kkgrhqmh-eeequyoedhkbktqitmti_121.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-o5qb2kkgrhqmh-eeequyoedhkbktqitmti_121.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Door on this side fits better.\u00a0 Front end details around the center grill opening look good.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-ufgwkkgrhquh-cmeqvi0vyhibktqi4vzw_12.jpeg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4881\" title=\"1600 veloce nose below\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-ufgwkkgrhquh-cmeqvi0vyhibktqi4vzw_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"1600 veloce nose below\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-ufgwkkgrhquh-cmeqvi0vyhibktqi4vzw_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-ufgwkkgrhquh-cmeqvi0vyhibktqi4vzw_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Underside of the chin is smooth.\u00a0 That drain hole in the middle of the edge is usually pretty busted up.\u00a0 Note overspray on suspension components.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size:x-small;font-family:Arial;\">Auction text: &#8220;Original Owner 1964 Alfa Romeo Giulia Spider Veloce.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:x-small;font-family:Arial;\">Original title from\u00a0&#8217;65.\u00a0Documentation from Alfa Romeo Automobilisimo Storico Centro Documentazione. All original car with correct Veloce bits. Paint and Body work done to high standard in original color. $17k in paint and body alone. Paint and Body in Perfect condition.\u00a0\u00a0Needs only easy re-assembly and miscellaneous chrome and interior.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:x-small;font-family:Arial;\">Original 1600 Veloce engine longblock in crate, gone through, ready to install. Other parts crated. Some NOS parts included. All parts included for re-assembly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I reserve the right to end the auction at any time and accept the highest bid.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-rrmkkgrhqeh-ccequpkt8zbktqi0dcq_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4878\" title=\"1600 veloce nose\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-rrmkkgrhqeh-ccequpkt8zbktqi0dcq_12.jpeg?w=225&#038;resize=225%2C300\" alt=\"1600 veloce nose\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-rrmkkgrhqeh-ccequpkt8zbktqi0dcq_12.jpeg?w=375&amp;ssl=1 375w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-rrmkkgrhqeh-ccequpkt8zbktqi0dcq_12.jpeg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><strong>Better view of nose details confirms my earlier opinion that the center is good.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-qewkkgrhqqh-dwequ2yoldebktqiw3e0_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4877\" title=\"veloce above 1600\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-qewkkgrhqqh-dwequ2yoldebktqiw3e0_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"veloce above 1600\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-qewkkgrhqqh-dwequ2yoldebktqiw3e0_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-qewkkgrhqqh-dwequ2yoldebktqiw3e0_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>I guess the hood being loose is a good reason for it to not fit well!\u00a0 Dash and steering wheel are present.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b1byuwwkkgrhquh-ckeqvlmun-bktqsjn3g_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4882\" title=\"1600 veloce floor pan\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b1byuwwkkgrhquh-ckeqvlmun-bktqsjn3g_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"1600 veloce floor pan\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b1byuwwkkgrhquh-ckeqvlmun-bktqsjn3g_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b1byuwwkkgrhquh-ckeqvlmun-bktqsjn3g_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Looks like they just sprayed right over anything\u00a0 that was on the floor boards.\u00a0 Seat track lowers are nice to have, though they don&#8217;t have the angled cut that Spiders usually have on the outers.\u00a0 Maybe set in backward?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-tgwbwkkgrhqmh-cmeqt2v40fvbktqi8q69w_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4880\" title=\"1600 veloce trunk\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b0-tgwbwkkgrhqmh-cmeqt2v40fvbktqi8q69w_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"1600 veloce trunk\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-tgwbwkkgrhqmh-cmeqt2v40fvbktqi8q69w_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b0-tgwbwkkgrhqmh-cmeqt2v40fvbktqi8q69w_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>A little better than the floor boards here.\u00a0 For some reason a really smooth nice trunk in these cars is important.\u00a0 Attention to detail is what it says to me.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b5iy1q2kkgrhgookjyejllmz5c3bktk3ij_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4875\" title=\"veloce engine 1600\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b5iy1q2kkgrhgookjyejllmz5c3bktk3ij_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"veloce engine 1600\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b5iy1q2kkgrhgookjyejllmz5c3bktk3ij_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b5iy1q2kkgrhgookjyejllmz5c3bktk3ij_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Inadvertantly defining crate motor.\u00a0 Has the right valve cover at least and reputed to have been gone through.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b5ivqmkkgrhgookjsejllmvqugbktk3ff0g_12.jpeg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4883\" title=\"1600 veloce engine vin\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/b5ivqmkkgrhgookjsejllmvqugbktk3ff0g_12.jpeg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"1600 veloce engine vin\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b5ivqmkkgrhgookjsejllmvqugbktk3ff0g_12.jpeg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/b5ivqmkkgrhgookjsejllmvqugbktk3ff0g_12.jpeg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>I have looked at this engine number a few times and it just doesn&#8217;t look right to me.\u00a0 They had figured out how to do a good job stamping engines by 1964.\u00a0 See below for comparison.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/img_0163.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4889\" title=\"IMG_0163\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/09\/img_0163.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"IMG_0163\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/img_0163.jpg?w=1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/img_0163.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/img_0163.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/img_0163.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>No anbiguity here, no numbers stretched out or overlapping or difficult to read.\u00a0 Maybe they photoshopped some ambiguity into the engine number &#8220;for privacy&#8221;.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This series of Giulia Spider was identified by Sports Car Market as being among 10 cars to watch since they were of the opinion that they would be appreciating.\u00a0\u00a0 A car in this shape, with out rusty floors etc should do pretty\u00a0well if the link to the parts included that\u00a0my companies firewall blocks shows everything present and in fixable shape.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/2009\/01\/27\/market-81-last-of-the-giulietta-spider-veloces\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">A similar but obviously better car<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/2009\/06\/17\/market-123-barn-find-late-spider-veloce\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Another 1600 Veloce project.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/2009\/01\/08\/market-76-older-resto-65-giulia-spider-veloce\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">What you would have when done<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update 9\/28\/09: 39 bidders managed to get it up to $10,100 but the reserve was not met.\u00a0 \u00a0 That price would have represented a good buy, heck, anything under about $15,000 would be a good buy to someone who can put it together from all those parts in the pictures.\u00a0 It costs the same amount &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2009\/09\/28\/market-149-one-owner-1600-spider-veloce-kit\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Market 149: One owner 1600 Spider Veloce kit&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[47,7,22,31],"tags":[103,114,118,166],"class_list":["post-4874","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-1600-veloce","category-giulietta-giulia-market","category-project-cars","category-spider-veloces","tag-alfa-romeo","tag-cars","tag-classic-cars","tag-spider-veloce"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4874","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4874"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4874\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4874"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4874"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4874"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}