{"id":3634,"date":"2009-05-02T20:33:48","date_gmt":"2009-05-03T03:33:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=3634"},"modified":"2009-05-02T20:33:48","modified_gmt":"2009-05-03T03:33:48","slug":"fiat-fresh-up-part-2-whos-knocking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2009\/05\/02\/fiat-fresh-up-part-2-whos-knocking\/","title":{"rendered":"Fiat Fresh-up part 2: who&#8217;s knocking?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is apparently the year of the engine rebuild for me!\u00a0 The attentive reader will know I have been lagging on pulling the FIAT engine, but no more.\u00a0 The engine came out today with a minimum of fuss and of course now I am faced with deciding what to do about the rod knock that led to these circumstances.\u00a0 You probably want to hear about the process first.\u00a0 It goes something like this&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8327.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3636\" title=\"Fiat 124 seda engine coming out\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8327.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"Fiat 124 seda engine coming out\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8327.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8327.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8327.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8327.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Alfa&#8217;s have a built in lift point on the head, not so FIAT&#8217;s, so I rigged up some tie-downs looped through the engine mounts.\u00a0 The transmission and engine are only held together by 4 bolts, but they are M12&#8217;s or something.\u00a0 Once everything was free I hooked up the hoist and went to work.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8328.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3635\" title=\"img_8328\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8328.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"img_8328\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8328.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8328.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8328.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8328.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>The tow straps worked a treat and once I realized that the flywheel cover was keeping the engine from coming out and I removed it the engine practically jumped out.\u00a0 It pays to have shop mates with a hoist.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8331.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3644\" title=\"img_8331\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8331.jpg?w=225&#038;resize=225%2C300\" alt=\"img_8331\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8331.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8331.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8331.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><strong>I&#8217;m not into having dirty hands and worry about grit getting in the engine so I quickly set to with some degreaser that looked like pee from a vitamin addict.\u00a0 Old grease is tough stuff, but a stiff brush wielded by a patient hand is tougher and 45 minutes of toil revealed a pretty good looking little engine.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8333.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3642\" title=\"img_8333\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8333.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"img_8333\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8333.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8333.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8333.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8333.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Viola!\u00a0 The little guy cleaned up nice and I am led to believe these cars came with gray blocks from new.\u00a0 Anyone know for sure?\u00a0 This one has some blue over-spray from the brush up it got a few years ago.\u00a0 A very different animal than the Alfa engines I&#8217;ve grown accustomed to. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8332.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3643\" title=\"img_8332\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8332.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"img_8332\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8332.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8332.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8332.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8332.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>This side is more surface rust colored than gray.\u00a0 Coolant leaked, and leaked, and leaked, and leaked seemingly forever out of the water pump.\u00a0 It is probably leaking right now in the dark shop as I type this.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8334.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3641\" title=\"img_8334\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8334.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"img_8334\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8334.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8334.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8334.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8334.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>The deal was that when I pulled the number two plug lead with the engine idling, the knock doubled.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is the number two rod bearing.\u00a0 Looks good to me, practically new in fact.<\/strong> <strong>Maybe a small end knock?\u00a0 Off with its head!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8335.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3640\" title=\"img_8335\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8335.jpg?w=225&#038;resize=225%2C300\" alt=\"img_8335\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8335.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8335.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8335.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><strong>45.92mm in this position.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8337.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3638\" title=\"img_8337\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8337.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"img_8337\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8337.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8337.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8337.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8337.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>45.71mm in this position.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8336.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3639\" title=\"img_8336\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8336.jpg?w=225&#038;resize=225%2C300\" alt=\"img_8336\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8336.jpg?w=900&amp;ssl=1 900w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8336.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8336.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><strong>46.10mm in this position. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am going to call the measurement inconclusive.\u00a0 It&#8217;s hard to get the caliper in there and measure and these kind of calipers are not the best tool for measuring journals, a micrometer would be better.\u00a0 I swallowed hard, looked up the hill and started climbing.\u00a0 I guess the crank is coming out if I&#8217;m going to measure it correctly, which means the timing chest, clutch, flywheel etc is coming off which means the engine might as well a new head gasket while I&#8217;m in there.\u00a0 D&#8217;oh, engine rebuild #2 for 2009!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8338.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-3637\" title=\"img_8338\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2009\/05\/img_8338.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"img_8338\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8338.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8338.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8338.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/05\/img_8338.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>I pulled the valve cover to see what could be seen.\u00a0 There is a lot of baked on black carbon.\u00a0 This engine wasn&#8217;t rebuilt with much care taken.\u00a0 Good thing I&#8217;m re-rebuilding it!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So there I am, enjoying a Tecate looking at this sad engine laying on its side on my bench, thinking about how I&#8217;d rather be working on my Giulietta Spider and how it&#8217;s going to be probably a minimum of a few week ordeal dealing with it and it occurs to me that for the money and time it will cost me to do this, I could probably source a FIAT twin cam engine to drop in along with a 5 speed transmission.\u00a0 Hmmm.<\/p>\n<p>Before I began writing this I cruised the usual places one finds cars and parts and there is a 1974 FIAT Spider engine for $300 with no bids in my area.\u00a0 The seller also has a 5 speed transmission.\u00a0 I hear the shift lever is not in the same place requiring a slight adjustment to the trans tunnel, but it would probably be worth it, especially if the 5 speed has an over-drive.\u00a0 I looked through my FIAT sedan\/wagon manual and it says the UK version of the 1600 twin cam has 104hp, elsewhere I read the 1800 has 93hp.\u00a0 ??\u00a0 I want a UK 1600, or a US 1600 and a set of high compression pistons.\u00a0 And suddenly our hero finds himself entering a whole new world.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone out there reading this know much about FIAT engine swap compatability?\u00a0 I want to hear from you.\u00a0 I have a lot of questions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is apparently the year of the engine rebuild for me!\u00a0 The attentive reader will know I have been lagging on pulling the FIAT engine, but no more.\u00a0 The engine came out today with a minimum of fuss and of course now I am faced with deciding what to do about the rod knock that &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2009\/05\/02\/fiat-fresh-up-part-2-whos-knocking\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Fiat Fresh-up part 2: who&#8217;s 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