{"id":1408,"date":"2008-10-22T22:48:19","date_gmt":"2008-10-23T05:48:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.wordpress.com\/?p=1408"},"modified":"2008-10-22T22:48:19","modified_gmt":"2008-10-23T05:48:19","slug":"101-1300-rebuild-for-giulietta-sprint-part-1-out-with-the-new-in-with-the-old","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2008\/10\/22\/101-1300-rebuild-for-giulietta-sprint-part-1-out-with-the-new-in-with-the-old\/","title":{"rendered":"101 1300 rebuild for Giulietta Sprint part 1: Out with the new, in with the old"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you have followed the Berlina recommission posts you know my plan was to pull the 1750 out of the Sprint, put it in the Berlina and then drop the original 101 1300 into the Sprint.  A slight complication was revealed on Saturday when, while the sun dried the gas out of the Fiat gas tank, I set to work preparing the 1300 for its new (old) home.  It seemed like a good idea to open the engine up enough to at least check the bores, a main bearing or two and the combustion chambers to establish a baseline of its condition.<\/p>\n<p>It turned out that the spark plugs being out of the holes for 13 years (only 2 in my keeping&#8230;) allowed moisture to attack the bores and rings.  I tried to hone one of the liners but wasn&#8217;t happy with the result.  Oh well, piston and liner sets are not too expensive, but do I go for the 1300 normale 9.1:1, veloce 10:1 or a 1400 kit or really punch it out and go for the Conrero spec 1500?  Time to fish through my wallet!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/before-disassembly.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1409\" title=\"before-disassembly\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/before-disassembly.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C224\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/before-disassembly.jpg?w=922&amp;ssl=1 922w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/before-disassembly.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/before-disassembly.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>The business end of a Giulietta 1300.  All and all pretty clean in here.  Someone decided polishing the crank was the way to go.  Note 101 1300 Nomales have the dip in the block side for the close in oil filter.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/img_6608.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1419\" title=\"alfa piston liner 1300\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/img_6608.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6608.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6608.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6608.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6608.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Rust never sleeps they say.  I could probably clean this up if I was in the middle of Mongolia and it was what was required to get back on the road, but the work involved in pulling an engine and taking it apart means it&#8217;s not worth the risk so I&#8217;m going to put in new parts.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/img_6607.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1420\" title=\"alfa 1300 liner\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/img_6607.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6607.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6607.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6607.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6607.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>It&#8217;s sad that this bore is ruined, without rust it would be perfect.  I had to use a press to get the piston out, but it went quietly into that good night.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/img_6606.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1421\" title=\"honed alfa romeo 1300 liner\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/img_6606.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C225\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6606.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6606.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6606.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/img_6606.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Here&#8217;s the bore after a quick hone.  Probably usable, but I like to push my Alfa engines into nose-bleed rpm ranges so I guess I&#8217;d better do it up new.  I&#8217;ll save this liner set for a Giulietta Berlina project if one ever surfaces.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/stamping-details.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1410\" title=\"stamping-details\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/stamping-details.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C224\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/stamping-details.jpg?w=922&amp;ssl=1 922w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/stamping-details.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/stamping-details.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>All the lock nuts are in place which is unusual.  The sheet metal bracket on the end cap mounts a windage tray.  Normale also has a gated trap to keep oil going to the oil pump pick-up under prolonged cornering.  Neat stuff on a humble 1300.  Note Connecting rod and cap markings as well as main cap markings.  No chance at confusion here.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/number-3-rod.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1411\" title=\"number-3-rod\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/number-3-rod.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C224\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/number-3-rod.jpg?w=922&amp;ssl=1 922w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/number-3-rod.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/number-3-rod.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Another view of the connecting rod.  Clean and shiny, too bad about the rust!  Is that a stock polish on the crank?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/clean-rod-journals.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1412\" title=\"clean-rod-journals\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/clean-rod-journals.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C217\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"217\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/clean-rod-journals.jpg?w=888&amp;ssl=1 888w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/clean-rod-journals.jpg?resize=300%2C218&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/clean-rod-journals.jpg?resize=768%2C558&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Thankfully another 40 years is required for the rust to attack the crank journals in my neighborhood.  Look at the shine on those journals.  Note &#8216;ears&#8217; on the right most main cap that support the oil pump pick up.  Veloce engines don&#8217;t have these.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/main-bearing.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1413\" title=\"main-bearing\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/main-bearing.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C198\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/main-bearing.jpg?w=457&amp;ssl=1 457w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/main-bearing.jpg?resize=300%2C198&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>What size mains do I order&#8230; I think this means .010 oversized!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/rod-bearing-size.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-1414\" title=\"rod-bearing-size\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/rod-bearing-size.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C194\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"194\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/rod-bearing-size.jpg?w=711&amp;ssl=1 711w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/10\/rod-bearing-size.jpg?resize=300%2C194&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><strong>Looks like the same story for the rod bearings.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>OK, so it&#8217;s been 5 days since I got all this apart.  I did some research on the internet and decided that based on qualitative analysis the 1400 kit is the way to go.  It&#8217;s about $350 more than a 1300 Normale kit and about $2500 less than the set-up and parts required to do a Conrero spec 1500 conversion (sorry Conrad, my wallet doesn&#8217;t support the full Targa Florio spec rebuild), so I think it&#8217;s a good compromise that is not too expensive.  Early next week my main\/rod bearings, thrust washers, lower chain, gasket set and some other little misc show up.  The piston liner set should follow in about two weeks.  In the mean time I have some cleaning to do before I try and install any new parts anyway so I&#8217;ll be able to exercise patience.  Oh yeah, and I have a Berlina, Fiat 124 and SS to work on if I get all caught up with stuff to do.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you have followed the Berlina recommission posts you know my plan was to pull the 1750 out of the Sprint, put it in the Berlina and then drop the original 101 1300 into the Sprint. A slight complication was revealed on Saturday when, while the sun dried the gas out of the Fiat gas &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2008\/10\/22\/101-1300-rebuild-for-giulietta-sprint-part-1-out-with-the-new-in-with-the-old\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;101 1300 rebuild for Giulietta Sprint part 1: Out with the new, in with the old&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,39],"tags":[103,114,118],"class_list":["post-1408","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-project-cars","category-working-on-my-cars","tag-alfa-romeo","tag-cars","tag-classic-cars"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1408","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1408"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1408\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1408"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1408"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1408"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}