{"id":11691,"date":"2012-08-01T11:28:13","date_gmt":"2012-08-01T18:28:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=11691"},"modified":"2012-08-01T11:28:13","modified_gmt":"2012-08-01T18:28:13","slug":"heater-part-2-heater-valve-1493-54-709-and-control-cable-1488-31-723","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2012\/08\/01\/heater-part-2-heater-valve-1493-54-709-and-control-cable-1488-31-723\/","title":{"rendered":"Heater part 2: Heater valve 1493.54.709 and control cable 1488.31.723"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last installment we looked at the heat exchanger box itself, this time I&#8217;ll focus on the bits that hook it up and control the incoming hot water: the heater valve and the push\/pull cable that controls the valve.\u00a0 The first generation of Sprint&#8217;s had a heater valve (1483.54.711) that looked not far removed from a garden tap and you actually had to pop the hood and get out to turn on the flow of hot water to the heater core (if you didn&#8217;t realize you were going to want heat before you started out).\u00a0 At some point this was deemed a little old fashioned so a cable operated valve was put to use -cousins of which can be found on Alfa&#8217;s for many years to follow.<\/p>\n<p>Valve failure mode(s): hardening of rubber diverter seal, oxidation leading to through pits or breakage, loss.<\/p>\n<p>Control cable failure mode(s): still\/difficult operation, cable breakage\/cut leading to too short, loss.<\/p>\n<p>The current state of the parts supply has:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.classicalfa.com\/products\/750%252d021-HEATER-TAP-%252d-750-SERIES-%26-101-SERIES-TO-1960.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">early style heater valve available<\/a> in reproduction from most sources that service Giulietta&#8217;s.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.classicalfa.com\/products\/WA019%7B47%7D1-METAL-HEATER-VALVE-DIAPHRAGM.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Diaphragm seals available<\/a> to rebuild original 1493.54.709 heater valves.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.classicalfa.com\/products\/WA019-METAL-HEATER-VALVE-%252d-101-SERIES-%7B47%7D102-%282000%29-TOURING-%7B47%7D-EARLY-105.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Replacement valves<\/a> that with a little rework will work in place of 1493.54.709.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11695\" title=\"IMG_3345\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg?w=3264&amp;ssl=1 3264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3345.jpg?resize=1568%2C1176&amp;ssl=1 1568w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>1493.54.709 with new diaphragm seal installed.\u00a0 Like all rubber things, it just got hard and cracked after 50+ years.\u00a0 The inner plateau seals against the port in the valve body, keeping the water out of the core when not wanted, the outer ring seals to the body to keep it from leaking when it&#8217;s open.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11696\" title=\"IMG_3346\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg?w=3264&amp;ssl=1 3264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3346.jpg?resize=1568%2C1176&amp;ssl=1 1568w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sort of like this I suppose.\u00a0 By way of caution, if you are cruising around in your 58 Sprint and have the original valve still in service, you might want to replace the diaphragm.\u00a0 If it was to suddenly fail you would have a nice fluid loss and overheat if you weren&#8217;t paying attention.\u00a0 You could always take the heater valve out of the loop to limp home I suppose.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11693\" title=\"IMG_3343\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg?w=3264&amp;ssl=1 3264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3343.jpg?resize=1568%2C1176&amp;ssl=1 1568w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>This is the original assembly.\u00a0 Same idea as the currently available item, but physically different.\u00a0 These countersunk slotted screws and externally toothed washers are original.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11697\" title=\"IMG_3347\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg?resize=525%2C699\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg?w=2448&amp;ssl=1 2448w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg?resize=1568%2C2091&amp;ssl=1 1568w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3347.jpg?w=1050&amp;ssl=1 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>This is what actuates the valve -the angled slot in the brass shaft.\u00a0 You pull the cable out about a few centimeters and a half and the lever translates the motion to rotation that pulls the flat portion of the diaphragm away from a port on the heater body letting water through to circulate through the core.\u00a0 If installed correctly the spring goes over center in both directions, helping keep the valve both open and closed.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11694\" title=\"IMG_3344\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg?w=3264&amp;ssl=1 3264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3344.jpg?resize=1568%2C1176&amp;ssl=1 1568w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>The big post in the foreground captures the outer part of the cable.\u00a0 The inner part of the cable goes through the cylinder at the end of the lever.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s a good view of the installed spring.\u00a0 You only install 2 screws at this point since two of them have to go through the bracket on the firewall.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11692\" title=\"IMG_3342\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg?w=3264&amp;ssl=1 3264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3342.jpg?resize=1568%2C1176&amp;ssl=1 1568w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>A main failure mode for these is the inlet and outlet tubes corrode and either leak from through holes or break off entirely.\u00a0 One could machine the old valve to accept a pressed in length of aluminum tubing, but a replacement valve is not too expensive.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/6995_0_0.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11702\" title=\"6995_0_0\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/6995_0_0.jpg?resize=350%2C350\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/6995_0_0.jpg?w=350&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/6995_0_0.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/6995_0_0.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s the current replacement item.\u00a0 Note the extra mounting flanges etc.\u00a0 I had to combine one of these with an original valve on a Spider I was working on as I couldn&#8217;t get the control cable, hoses and mounting bracket to all easily line up.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11699\" title=\"IMG_3349\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg?resize=525%2C699\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg?w=2448&amp;ssl=1 2448w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg?resize=1568%2C2091&amp;ssl=1 1568w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3349.jpg?w=1050&amp;ssl=1 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>This T for temperature knob is in pretty good shape.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t think anyone reproduces these yet.\u00a0 Good thing they live under the dash and don&#8217;t heat-cycle and crack as readily as the other control knobs.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11698\" title=\"IMG_3348\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg?resize=525%2C699\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg?w=2448&amp;ssl=1 2448w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg?resize=1568%2C2091&amp;ssl=1 1568w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3348.jpg?w=1050&amp;ssl=1 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Whoever took this car apart cut the cable at the firewall -not leaving enough end to reach the valve -even after cutting about 15mm off the sheath.\u00a0 The wire is hardened steel -a lot like guitar strings, and they insert it through a hole in the end of the slider then through the little access hole abut 5mm from the tip of the slider they peen it out of round so it wont come out, then they peen the end of the slider onto it too.\u00a0 Was difficult to drill through the little hole since the bit wanted to deflect off the wire and eat into the slider, but I managed to remove enough material from the end of the wire that it slid out.\u00a0 A replacement length of wire came from a spare choke cable I had laying around.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll order some wire from McMaster soon.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11700\" title=\"IMG_3351\" src=\"http:\/\/giuliettas.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg?resize=525%2C394\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg?w=3264&amp;ssl=1 3264w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/img_3351.jpg?resize=1568%2C1176&amp;ssl=1 1568w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>You can see it installed here.\u00a0 Do yourself a favor and install the valve and control cable at the same time!\u00a0 Picture is of a dry run test fit of the 1750 and headers in the engine compartment.\u00a0 It all fits perfect with the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.centerlinealfa.com\/store\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Centerline<\/a> engine mounts and headers.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll cut the excess cable and make the cute little square bend they did at the factory after I know it wont be coming out any time soon for any reason. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Next up I&#8217;ll look at the air flapper control cable and some other parts in this assembly.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last installment we looked at the heat exchanger box itself, this time I&#8217;ll focus on the bits that hook it up and control the incoming hot water: the heater valve and the push\/pull cable that controls the valve.\u00a0 The first generation of Sprint&#8217;s had a heater valve (1483.54.711) that looked not far removed from a &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2012\/08\/01\/heater-part-2-heater-valve-1493-54-709-and-control-cable-1488-31-723\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Heater part 2: Heater valve 1493.54.709 and control cable 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