{"id":11032,"date":"2012-03-17T12:10:01","date_gmt":"2012-03-17T19:10:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/giuliettas.com\/?p=11032"},"modified":"2012-03-17T12:10:01","modified_gmt":"2012-03-17T19:10:01","slug":"market-406-sprint-10105-20729-how-you-used-to-find-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rufushamilton.com\/giuliettas\/2012\/03\/17\/market-406-sprint-10105-20729-how-you-used-to-find-them\/","title":{"rendered":"Market 406: Sprint 10105 20729 -how you used to find them"},"content":{"rendered":"

Update 4\/6\/12: <\/strong>I subscribe to the idea that the price is the price -especially in the pure market forces exercise that an auction is, but I can’t help thinking that this car is under-appreciated and worth more than the sum of it’s parts.\u00a0 Car is listed in the current Giuliettaletta for an asking price of $20K.\u00a0 A little high in my opinion, but not massively.<\/p>\n

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Update 3\/27\/12:<\/strong> Car went unsold with a high bid of $12,100 -not meeting reserve, but has been relisted<\/a>.\u00a0 I wouldn’t have sold it for $12,100.<\/p>\n

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3\/17\/12:\u00a0 Giulietta Sprint 10105 1493*20729<\/a>.\u00a0 <\/strong>This car is on eBay right now<\/a> out of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania from a long time Alfa club guy.\u00a0 Seller says it was owned by the Dupont family and under went several color changes from the original Celeste (or whatever shade of light blue).\u00a0 Car is currently powered by a 1600 engine out of a 101 Spider that has a blown head gasket, but comes with the original 1300.\u00a0 The usual caveats apply -it’s complete, together, and not far from the road, but needs a lot of help to be a nice car.\u00a0 That said, it is one of the better Sprint projects I’ve written about.<\/p>\n

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Looking very much like my car -patina and all.\u00a0 Biggest plus for this car is its potential to be a rolling restoration.\u00a0 Check the brakes out, do the head gasket or whatever, tie up the loosest ends in the interior, suspension etc and drive it.\u00a0 While you use it you can source parts, come up with a plan, and begin the restoration.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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I am always reassured when I buy a car from a fellow enthusiast with other neat old cars.<\/strong>\u00a0 This car has had panels replaced front and back, but it looks like a good job was done of it.\u00a0 Someone on the west coast buy this and I’ll help get it together.<\/strong>
\n\"\"<\/a>Hole in the tail light is unfortunate, but single lenses pop up on eBay occasionally.\"\"<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

This is the second Sprint I’ve seen with this exact same paint checking and surface rust.\u00a0 Will need a new rear window gasket eventually.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Trunk prop and latch are missing -Alfastop carries new latches with keys.\u00a0 If the trunk is as solid as the seller claims, it’s a good deal.<\/strong><\/p>\n

“1960 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint<\/p>\n

Here is a brief history of it:
\n– Car was purchased by someone in the DuPont family (the chemical company) \u2013 originally robins egg blue with blue(?) interior
\n– Car was sold to someone, but then repurchased by the DuPonts again;\u00a0it was subsequently painted dark blue, then pininfarina red
\n\u2013 it also had the interior redone at some point in brown vinyl with basket weave fabric inserts \u2013 very 70\u2019s.
\n– It was also conveted to a 5spd at some point.
\n– It’s engine was swapped out for a 1600 from a Spider. (I sold the Spider long ago for parts.). I have the original 1300 (which supposedly was rebuilt with a 1400 kit and never run). That engine goes with the car. The 1600 has a vintage Mallory distributor.
\n– In 2000 or 2001,\u00a0the previous owner\u00a0advertised the car in the local (Delaware Valley) Alfa club classifieds (I was running the club and website at the time, so handled the ad). On a whim, I called about it and purchased it along with a \u201963 Spider and a bunch of parts from him. I\u2019ve owned it since.
\n– After purchasing it, I needed to go over the brakes, replace the exhaust and a few other items to get it running\/driving.
\n– I haven\u2019t done much to it since, other than maintenance and putting on a Weber carb. I drove it from PA to NH in 2004 for the Alfa Convention and drove it regularly until about 2010 when the head gasket went. It\u2019s sat in my garage since then.
\n– In December 2011, I pulled it out to get it ready to sell and got it back on the road again.<\/p>\n

– The car is pretty well preserved, probably due to the fact that it was sprayed everywhere with cosmoline (or something like that). It\u2019s been hit in the front \u2013 the hood, grill, bumper and both front fenders were replaced at one point. There is some rust bubbling in the front quarter panels where the new fenders were brazed in with a lap joint. On the positive, the front bumper is beautiful. It\u2019s been hit in the rear also \u2013 the trunk lid was repaired and the rear bumper replaced. The rear bumper is perfect, but it does not have the reflectors on the fenders. Other than the front fender bubbles, there is a small bubble on the lower rear fender. Other than that, the car is rust free as far as I can tell.
\n– The interior is deteriorating \u2013 it is not original anyway. Both front seats are torn. The headliner has a hole in it above the driver door. The tach does not work. One of the gages has the lettering falling off. The car does, however, have a rare rear seat which is very nice. The rear seats are in good condition.
\n– The glass is fine.
\n– Bumpers are near perfect. The grill has a small ding that can be taken out. The trim is fine. The airplane is pitted. The door handles are also pitted, but not as badly. The front fenders do not have the marker lights on them. The hood does not have the spear on it. One tail light lens has a hole in it. I have the trim for the hood and rear reflectors. I don’t have the side marker lights.
\n– As mentioned before, the 1600 needs a head gasket. The transmission is fine. Brake MC was rebuilt a couple of years ago and some of the wheel cylinders were replaced \u2013 not all.
\n– The car would come with spares, most of the missing trim, the 1300 engine, and some new parts like window seals. Depending on selling price, I will also include a spare trunk lid, hood, rear glass and other Giulietta parts I have.
\n– Overall, it is a solid car that can be enjoyed with very little work. However, if you intend to show it, it would need a complete restoration. My plan was to take it off the road and redo it, back to its original colors. Unfortunately, I have neither the time nor the energy anymore to seriously think about restoring it. While I love the car, I need to simplify and it must go.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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First thing I would do that wasn’t a ‘requirement to run’ would be to recover the dash in black -that’s what you look at the whole time you’re driving<\/strong>.\u00a0 Second the seats and door panels.\u00a0 Steering wheel looks great.\u00a0 Rear view mirror needs re-silvering.\u00a0 I am going to get some mirrors re-silvered pretty soon as part of my ‘learning about the parts’ program.<\/strong>\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

As kooky and interesting as the rear seat is, I think I’d restore to standard config.\u00a0 This just eats up good luggage space.\u00a0 Of course, I could put a baby seat back here…<\/strong><\/p>\n

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It isn’t pretty, but it will work.\u00a0 I can see some original light blue paint peaking out from behind the carb.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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I don’t see evidence of any rust.\u00a0 Usual the spar -the piece that runs under the floor between the rockers and center frame rusts first (the top horizontal line in this picture is defined by this bit.\u00a0 Exhaust looks custom, tire is flat, flexible coupling probably needs replacement.<\/strong><\/p>\n

<\/strong>My current theory on restorations is that taking the car all apart at once is what kills it.\u00a0 Many -most? -restorations don’t get finished, and people aren’t careful with keeping track of bits, etc, so this is what I propose (note, this mainly applies to the home enthusiast restorer) take off one assembly, document and restore it, then carefully pack it away -once that part is done, take apart the next assembly, and repeat.\u00a0 This way you have only one thoroughly disassembled bit to worry about at any given time besides the ready-to-assemble parts off the car.\u00a0 Why do this?\u00a0 If you give up, change your mind or life comes calling with unforseen changes, you wont have a garage full of boxes, tubs and coffee cans full of crusty Sprint parts and a semi-rolling shell.\u00a0 This technique could be applied to a runner\/driver, with the restored bits going back on the car as they are done -but then you have to remove them twice -a little inefficiency in the name of keeping it manageable.<\/p>\n

I know -but what about the 6 months while the body is at the shop getting a few rust patches and a coat of paint?\u00a0 Build the engine, transmission and ancillaries while the body is gone.<\/p>\n

Just a thought.<\/p>\n

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Update 4\/6\/12: I subscribe to the idea that the price is the price -especially in the pure market forces exercise that an auction is, but I can’t help thinking that this car is under-appreciated and worth more than the sum of it’s parts.\u00a0 Car is listed in the current Giuliettaletta for an asking price of … <\/p>\n

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